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Help me decide between Vevor 8x16 Deluxe or the LMS 7x16 HiTorque 5100
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i pick up a lot of equipment from VEVOR, but not a lathe. LMS is very good and grizzly as well, if you have the space i would look at a slightly larger 8"+ lathe 210 to 220 mm, they are a little more sorted out and have a lot more capabilities.
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well i bit the bullet and bought a MX-600A (1100w brushless 8.7X23.6 with a F/R H/M/L gearbox and a 1.5" spindle bore, shipps with a steady rest, a follow rest and a dead center) off of e-bay, after getting it and turning some steel (does a decent job IMO). I got this expecting a box of lathe...
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Canit 't offer much more than the others , except to say I own a 7 inch mini and decided to upgrade to the 9 x 19 Grizzly in mid June. Unfortunately, it said it was on back order expecting to arrive in a few days, but it keeps updating the expected arrival date by pushing it out a few days, so don't know when Grizzzly will have them back in stock.
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Just wanted to update, the Grizzly G4000 is now back in stock and shipping as of June 28. It may not be the best machine for most, but for me, it was the largest I could fit in the space I have.
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Wise move going from a 8x16 to a 9x19, I hear good things about the g4000.
Good luck with your new toy
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The 9x19 is far from perfect, but it is time tested, makes very efficient use of space and is well supported with a lot of user knowledge out there on ways to address many of its imperfections.
Hope you find it was worth the wait.
A reputation of getting what you paid for? Honestly, I really don't understand people expecting high quality standards with dirt cheap prices. Isn't that greed?
Unlike many of you, I've actually bought a lathe from Vevor, the ubiquitous 7x12 clone with 3" chuck to be precise. I think I paid $350 shipped to my door early this year and treated it as nothing but a kit of parts. As soon as I got it, I disassembled it with the intention of cannibalizing stuff for a 7x16 bed and headstock I already had. I don't remember how much I paid for that, but I doubt I have more than $500 all in all.
Sure, quality isn't great, but it's still a great value. It might not seem so, but a machine like this has tons of parts and all the leftovers are new. Sitting in the original plywood box I've got the original bed, the original headstock, the original motor, the original speed control board (I'm going to use a servo instead)... I'm sure that, if I sold all the parts separately as spares, my lathe would essentially be free.
So yeah, if you are expecting a precision machine out of the box and you don't want to get your hands dirty, you should look elsewhere. But for us who really know what we're getting into...
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The OP asked their question two months ago.
It was to be their first lathe.
They were definitely not looking for a parts donor machine with the possibility of flipping the 'leftovers'.
They clearly implied they had limited experience with machining.
Your post pretty much ignored all of the above vital facts, and talked about you and all the things you did, all of which are irrelevant to the OP.
You also doubled down on the irrelevance of your post to the OP with barely concealed insults aimed at those who have offered sensible, relevant advice to the OP.
Perhap you'd be happier posting on other platforms where you do "understand people" and where they "really know what we're getting into"?
Nobody offends by stating a truth. And the truth here is that some people still don't understand there is a market for every need, and needs are not all the same. Vevor just does globally what Harbor Freight does in the US: aim to the very bottom end of the price range. It's just a massive importer of cheap stuff with a good price-quality ratio (not necessarily high quality alone) with close to zero after sales support. That's what you pay for, and that's what you get.
OP said he was happy to fiddle with his new lathe. I'd say, it will always be better to get a larger lathe, even if it's of lesser quality, than a smaller lathe. Like someone said, you can fix a lot of things, but you simply can't make a machine bigger.
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We all say that. Even those of us that have bought 7x lathes, for example, from reputable importers are surprised by just how much work there is to do (and when that work is done, by the still-extant gulf between a reputable importer's Chinese 7x and one of their larger, more expensive lathes).
In any case, there's a world of difference between a bit of deburring, some gib adjustment, some apron/headstock/tailstock/bed-foot shimming and upgrading the spindle bearings on a lathe from someone like LMS or Grizzly on the one hand and dealing with the potential of multiple unrelated defects on lathes from Vevor on the other.
I reckon you're overstating the case here. I'd say for most beginner hobbyists, a Southbend 9 or a Boxford A (same difference
) or an ML7 in good nick would be better value than a new Chinese 12x36. Especially since you often get useful extra tooling when buying used.And a beginner is best to avoid getting a larger machine from a company with a known reputation for virtually non-existent support.
Vevor offer a lot of decent enough accessories. I have one of their little 4" rotary tables and after a clean-up and deburring, it's great value for money (cost about £80 I think) but I'd not risk one of their machine tools myself and I think the general consensus that beginners (of which I count myself amongst their number) should avoid Vevor lathes, is good advice.
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