Anyone recognize this drill press?

[pontiac428]

@pontiac428 after thinking about your post, i'm confused no insult taken or intended but ...

I think it is a very nice drill press. My mill is European and my lathe is from a German-sponsored company in Brazil. I think it would take very little effort to clean up and will certainly outlast you or I.

My intent was to share my experience in hunting down a manual for my drill press, which was a disappointment. I also wanted to ground you in the facts that a drill press is not in the least but a complex machine to work on, and that a having list of part numbers from a defunct and obscure company will not be likely to enhance your experience or produce much benefit. Clean it up, check the wiring, change the oil with ISO68, match the belt from the Gates catalog, and drill some holes. My guess is that drill was made in the 1960's, so, as is the reality with all old iron manufactured in relatively small numbers, broken components might need to be fabricated. With lathes, mills, gearboxes, power feeds, in other words more complex machinery rebuilds, having exploded diagrams, schematics, and (maybe) a lube schedule is a benefit. For a drill, at least in my experience, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Service parts like seals are interchange catalog items and have only had standardized nomenclature in recent decades anyway.
My post was meant to be practical, not condescending, but I probably set you on sensitive by pleading "no insults intended," so I shouldn't be surprised that you were. I don't think it should come off like that based on content. I'm not telling you what to do, that's your choice alone. Yes, I have manuals for my tools. Only the ones with hundreds of parts and subassemblies are useful. Heck, my band saw manuals don't even say what kind of oil or what size blade they take, they just have electrical shock warnings and PPE pictograms. I guess they thought that bearings and shafts are pretty obvious and left those details out.

It is a nice piece of West German semi-steel to be sure, and I bet the bearings are fantastic.

I wanted to give you a second chance to read what I actually said. No tough love here, just information to take or leave from another enthusiast who has been there before. Probably didn't help that I'm on my second cup of coffee this morning!

 

[dabear3428]

I think it is a very nice drill press. My mill is European and my lathe is from a German-sponsored company in Brazil. I think it would take very little effort to clean up and will certainly outlast you or I.

My intent was to share my experience in hunting down a manual for my drill press, which was a disappointment. I also wanted to ground you in the facts that a drill press is not in the least but a complex machine to work on, and that a having list of part numbers from a defunct and obscure company will not be likely to enhance your experience or produce much benefit. Clean it up, check the wiring, change the oil with ISO68, match the belt from the Gates catalog, and drill some holes. My guess is that drill was made in the 1960's, so, as is the reality with all old iron manufactured in relatively small numbers, broken components might need to be fabricated. With lathes, mills, gearboxes, power feeds, in other words more complex machinery rebuilds, having exploded diagrams, schematics, and (maybe) a lube schedule is a benefit. For a drill, at least in my experience, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Service parts like seals are interchange catalog items and have only had standardized nomenclature in recent decades anyway.
My post was meant to be practical, not condescending, but I probably set you on sensitive by pleading "no insults intended," so I shouldn't be surprised that you were. I don't think it should come off like that based on content. I'm not telling you what to do, that's your choice alone. Yes, I have manuals for my tools. Only the ones with hundreds of parts and subassemblies are useful. Heck, my band saw manuals don't even say what kind of oil or what size blade they take, they just have electrical shock warnings and PPE pictograms. I guess they thought that bearings and shafts are pretty obvious and left those details out.

I wanted to give you a second chance to read what I actually said. No tough love here, just information to take or leave from another enthusiast who has been there before. Probably didn't help that I'm on my second cup of coffee this morning!

No insult received, I think the confusion is that i'm not looking for a manual or at least not the intent of this thread, i'm looking for community knowledge, the specifics like manuals and part numbers i will find as i need parts if ever, i suspect that this is in good working order because it did not come from a production environment and the most work this thing has seen is Port employees bringing home projects to work to do on their lunch break (or not).
anyway no insult received, i just think you are answering a question i'm not asking, at least in this thread. I may need to be asking those questions later but we will see. I just wanted to see if anyone had knowledge of the drill press that they could pass on, because the internet is a void as far as this equipment is concerned. Maybe i just suck at internet searches, that may be the issue come to think of it lol.

 

[SouthernChap]

this drill press cost me $62 and the gas/time to go pick it up

Um...given the potential quality of the drill press you have there, I believe the traditional response should be:



After a bit of tidying, that'll look (and hopefully perform) very nice in your shop.

 

[pontiac428]

I spent 12 years in Germany and only moved back in 2016. I shopped equipment and had a small detached shop, so I know my way around the web. I found one of your drills sold in Hamburg and the listing says it was made in 1954:

I found another listing here

Lot detail - 1 Säulenbohrmaschine Fabr.: Wölfel

SN: TO/R-10702, Bj.: und Typ: unbekannt, Hub: 150 mm, bis 1.400 U/min, Tischgröße: 400 x 400 mm

christoph-sattler.de

And that's it. Someone was selling a manual for a Walter Wölfel gang drill press on German eBay, but it's a vastly different machine. So the information dearth on the TO/R exists in the country of origin too. At least the model year is a clue.

 

[dabear3428]

I spent 12 years in Germany and only moved back in 2016. I shopped equipment and had a small detached shop, so I know my way around the web. I found one of your drills sold in Hamburg and the listing says it was made in 1954:View attachment 515990View attachment 515991

I found another listing here

Lot detail - 1 Säulenbohrmaschine Fabr.: Wölfel

SN: TO/R-10702, Bj.: und Typ: unbekannt, Hub: 150 mm, bis 1.400 U/min, Tischgröße: 400 x 400 mm

christoph-sattler.de

And that's it. Someone was selling a manual for a Walter Wölfel gang drill press on German eBay, but it's a vastly different machine. So the information dearth on the TO/R exists in the country of origin too. At least the model year is a clue.

cool thanks my search did not bring up that one. but it did now and there was a different one several days ago. there are 3 images that my search brings up and one of them is mine lol