Time is running out (California folk)

[Jeff.64]

I remember when the new iceage warnings were common while in middle school. Then acid rain would destroy the worlds supply of pantyhose. Then the crying indian chief warned us to clean up the trash. This worked great, we had the ubiquitous $300 littering signs and things started to look better. You know, with people adopting highways. Now we've regressed. I see people throwing trash everywhere and there are no more littering signs. I called the local police department and inquired if they still enforced littering laws. The desk sergeant had to put me on hold to make inquires because he was not sure. Back to the past memories. Then the ozone layer had a large hole that would get bigger and kill us with skin cancer. Then anthropogenic global warming would melt the polar icecaps. Now I think we are still in the climate change concerns. It can get hotter or colder if we don't give a lot of money to various groups and stop giving money to other groups, i.e. stop buying certain things.

With all of the data subtrifuge made public, I have a hard time buying into anything 100%. Do we as a species do damage to our environment? Of course we do! Are we the sole cause of global warming? I doubt it. If every human on earth disappeared, will climate change stop? No, core samples tell us of times where CO₂ concentrations were much higher when no humans existed. But, local problems are created by humans. Just look at the smog in large cities of other nations that have not cleaned up emissions as were done in the USA. So, yes we need to continue doing what we can, but I think some of the recommendations/laws are not completely altruistic.

So, I leave you with the words of the late great philosopher Mr. George Carlin:

Maybe create low emission 2-cycle engines vs outlawing them?

 

[skogkatt007]

That’s one of the big problems when you live in fly over country. For some reason your needs aren’t as important as the elites living on the coast.

In the past we’ve had storms around here that have dumped a foot and a half of snow on us. No problem we just dig our selves out. It never makes the news but when that same storm dumps 3 inches on the east coast it becomes a major headline.

On Edit: sorry copied the wrong post. Thanks RJ for the heads up.

I live in NJ. Born in Brooklyn, grew up on Long Island. Nobody thinks much of 3". The roads won't be affected too much. We've had 18" dumps, not many in the past 15 years. I just dig it out. Lots more people have snow blowers these days though.

 

[skogkatt007]

Incidentally that Indian (if what you're referencing was that old commercial) wasn't even an Indian. He was Italian. Espera de Corti LOL LOL LOL

Clean up your crap, you and me. Sure. But what about an ice age or hot age that isn't on account of us, as we're to believe. Watcha gonna do then?

 

[mmcmdl]

This worked great, we had the ubiquitous $300 littering signs and things started to look better.

Howdy neighbor ! Just to add , we drove the full length of the Canada Transcontinental Highway this past summer . I did not see one piece of trash along the highway , pretty darn impressive . Learned they recycle very heavily also . People going thru trash cans twice a day scavenging . One aluminum can is worth 10 cents . Not much , but getting exercise and a few bucks a day ain't bad , and I did help out one woman with her can search . She was pretty darn happy to take it all . New York also . Upstate , aluminum is $$$$$ to these people who live in the mountains . You don't see any trash along the roads , a lot of dead deer , but no trash .

 

[projectnut]

I live in NJ. Born in Brooklyn, grew up on Long Island. Nobody thinks much of 3". The roads won't be affected too much. We've had 18" dumps, not many in the past 15 years. I just dig it out. Lots more people have snow blowers these days though.

A snowblower is all but a necessity in these parts. Since the 1970’s we’ve had 4. Two have been retired and the other 2 are used on a regular basis.

We don’t get as many storms as we did in the past, but when it does snow it’s usually several inches at a time. Add in the blowing and drifting and we end up with a 3 foot high pile in front of the garage doors every time. Twenty feet down the drive there’s bare concrete.

Our newest blower is a 14 hp commercial tracked model. The older wheel drive models weren’t doing the job of clearing the 4 foot pile of ice and snow the plow leaves at the end of the drive.

We live in a cul de sac. The plow driver usually goes around clockwise to make a big pile in the center of the circle. The plow can only get it so high so the pile gets wider as the season goes on. Many times I’ve had to use the blower and end loader to make the pile higher and small enough in diameter to get the cars and trucks out of the drive.

 

[woodchucker]

As it stands now, Lithium recycling is behind the curve. But it's value is so much higher than lead acid. Lead acid has a 60+ year head start.
It's coming. There are companies buying up the old lithium at scrap value.. waiting for the day when it becomes as ubiquitous as lead acid. Lithium polymer is the easiest to recycle right now, because it's a soft envelope, the metal encased batteries are the biggest problem, and those are the main source of lithium power. They are safer than the polymer due to the packaging.

 

[woodchucker]

I live in NJ. Born in Brooklyn, grew up on Long Island. Nobody thinks much of 3". The roads won't be affected too much. We've had 18" dumps, not many in the past 15 years. I just dig it out. Lots more people have snow blowers these days though.

that is very true, it's the weathermen, and news that overhype the weather. We get philly news, they have weather 3 times during the each news segment, and sometimes more in the am. And any bad weather is an OMG the sky is falling. I don't know, I walked to school in 1 foot of snow, with no shoes for years , get over it.

 

[skogkatt007]

You live in the mountains?

 

[projectnut]

that is very true, it's the weathermen, and news that overhype the weather. We get philly news, they have weather 3 times during the each news segment, and sometimes more in the am. And any bad weather is an OMG the sky is falling. I don't know, I walked to school in 1 foot of snow, with no shoes for years , get over it.

We also walked a mile to school. It was a real struggle. Uphill both ways. The snow was so deep and packed so tight the horses could walk over the fences. AAH, wait a minute I think that was the story my grandfather used to tell.

 

[woodchucker]

You live in the mountains?

yes, mountains and open farmland (although turning to homes ) 3 miles south of 78,