Just Purchased an MX-210 lathe and HiTorque 6500 Bench Mill

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Hello Folks,

Well, I took the plunge. I was originally looking for something larger but I've spent the last month doing lots of research, and it turns out that my needs are now slightly different than my wants. Plus the available space in my tool room has decreased substantially (long story), plus other personal family matters have impinged on my ability to transport heavy machinery.

I know this is heresy to some, but I've decided that I'd rather start with smaller-scale equipment that I can more easily transport and fit, based on my existing limitations. This will allow me to get (and fit) both a mini-lathe and mini-mill and start making chips sooner, lol. I understand the limitations that this will place on what I can and cannot do, but fortunately my goals all along were always limited to automotive-related detail items such as bushings, brackets, wire/hose clamps, etc. Should the time come where I've determined I need something larger and heavier to accomplish those tasks, well, as my brother is fond of saying, I'll burn that bridge when I get to it.

Yesterday I stumbled upon a CL ad and contacted the seller, who I met with today. He is a very experienced elderly machinist and has a nice collection of machine tools filling his two-car garage. He had a MX-210 lathe and HiTorque 6500 Bench Mill for sale, both mounted securely to tool chest stands. He has owned them for three years and has extensively upgraded and modified both of them. They are both in excellent condition, and as @matthewsx commented in an earlier thread, he has done all of the hard work involved in bringing these machines up to snuff. Both machines are equipped with DROs. Plus, he has a ton of accessories and tooling that go with the machines. And he has a thumb drive database chock full of detailed descriptions of every modification and upgrade performed, and observations of operational characteristics of both machines, along with every bit of documentation that came with them, plus a bunch of Internet-sourced info pertraining to both of these machines. Plus his assurance that I can call him anytime I need any advice about running or adjusting these machines.

We spoke for a little over an hour and I agreed to purchase the complete package. We agreed on a package price of $2500, which I feel is fair based on everything involved. I may not need the bench stands, in which case I can turn them around for a couple hundred each. It may not be what some folks consider a smokin' deal, but I still think I got a lot of value for the money. I hope to have the machines in my garage by the beginning of next week.

MX-210 Lathe:

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HiTorque 6500 Bench Mill:

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The LMS 6500 seems to be a decent small mill, that new would have cost close to what you paid for everything. With the tool chests, lathe and all that tooling I'd say you found a pretty good deal.

A plus to smaller machines, is they fit a lot of shops and budgets so are pretty easy to sell if you out grow them.
 
Hello folks,

Looks like I'll have the machines on Tuesday. I'm thinking about putting wheels on the cabinets, do you think it would affect the rigidity of the units? Both the lathe and mill are mounted to 3/4" aluminum plates, which in turn are mounted to their respective cabinets.
 
Hello folks,

Looks like I'll have the machines on Tuesday. I'm thinking about putting wheels on the cabinets, do you think it would affect the rigidity of the units? Both the lathe and mill are mounted to 3/4" aluminum plates, which in turn are mounted to their respective cabinets.


If the floor surface where you intend to set the machines is nice and flat, then yes, adding casters will affect rigidity as you will lose a lot of contact area. Also, there is some flexibility in the casters.

Ted
 
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As an addendum to my original post, I have to take a minute and reflect on this entire experience so far.

I started this search about two months ago, even though I've been pondering this decision for a few years now. Through the entire process I've kept an open mind about what I wanted vs. what might be out there. I always felt that when the right deal came along I would recognize and embrace it. Such is the case here. I communicated with many sellers, most of whom (but not all) were sincerely nice folks who unfortunately didn't have a clue about what they were selling. I looked at new equipment but the thought of all the 'blueprinting' involved to get them just right discouraged me; I really didn't want to spend the next six months getting everything 'just right'. When I came across the seller's ad, I had a good feeling about it, and after speaking with him I realized that he had already done just about everything I would have done to a new offshore lathe or mill (bearings, alignment, DROs, etc. etc.). When I drove up to his place his garage door was open, and I knew almost immediately that I would be a buyer. And after speaking with him for the first few minutes I knew this was a done deal. Can't say enough about how reassuring it was to purchase from someone who had over fifty years experience working machine tools, including the fact that he went out of his way to emphasize the limitations of smaller equipment.

Anyway, long story short, there's no substitution for knowledge and experience, and I have to give a shout out to the members of this forum for being so willing to freely share THEIR knowledge and experience with the folks like me who are new to this hobby. Thanks a BUNCH, I really appreciate all of the input, and I look forward to bothering y'all with many more questions. ;):cool:
 
I have to agree with the others: you got a bargain! You can upgrade the readouts on the DRO’s with the addition of a TouchDRO adapter and get a lot more out of them:


Be sure to ask as questions arise.


Charlie
 
I have to agree with the others: you got a bargain! You can upgrade the readouts on the DRO’s with the addition of a TouchDRO adapter and get a lot more out of them:


Be sure to ask as questions arise.


Charlie
Thank you sir!

Does the TouchDRO adapter replace the existing DROs, or merely augment them?
 
do you think it would affect the rigidity of the units
It will not affect the "rigidity" of the equipment. Use larger Locking hard casters, nothing with soft tires as they will develop a "set" & become a PIA. How it will affect your working height is maybe more important. I hate bending over while working. BTW you got a bargain!
 
...We agreed on a package price ...

I dunno about your neighborhood, If that wouldda turned up in my neighborhood today, I'd have bought it just to flip it, and it'd be gone by tomorrow...
Or maybe I'd have kept it all. Not really sure. But I for one will not second guess any decisions on size based on cost, availabilty, space, or other logistical troubles. Those are real, and as much as I hate to say it, those issues DO matter when it comes to your overall enjoyment of the tools. You got a good package there.

I wouldn't hesitate to put those on wheels. Both are fairly small, and not overpowered machines, and they're mounted on a plate that's very well scaled to keep them under control. Sure, the wheels will allow the "whole bench" to have some reduction in their stability, but if you're not whooping on them, they're not gonna be shaking all over either. And when the whole thing moves as a unit, that's not what messes your day up. The rigidity within the machines themselves (where the part AND the tool are attached to, that's what does good work. These are a lot different than something which is six feet long....
Those tool chests will both (I believe) have been "roll cabs" that will have actual reinforced threaded caster mounting holes. I'd highly recommend that you take advantage of that for a clean and solid installation. It's gonna be an awakard PITA to get under there to find the thread size and hole spacing, but a heck of a lot easier than getting under there and customzinig...
If you're not sure if you're keeping them or not, that'll add value (or maybe not, but they'll sure sell quicker), and make your live better because probably (maybe not, probably) make a more conmfortable height to use them, and let you situate them while you figure out where it's all going to live on a permenant basis.
 
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