Lathe for Suppressor and general use

[GA Gyro]

Re: Lathe for Suppressors and general use

Be wise to check out this 12x36 . I have one bought and its on the loading dock waiting for a truck. This can be tuff time to ship things. Trucking shuts down little thru holiday's. I don't blame them. Time for family. That said by guy worked most of the Holidays. Any way give PM Lathes a look. A lot of happy owners over there. Its said it one of the better china lathes. Or for few bucks more Matt will sell you Highest Quality Lathe, Made in TAIWAN
Taiwan I read are a lot better fitted lathe. I read China parts but better fitted?
http://www.precisionmatthews.com/PM1236Lathe.html

Same guys different website. better website..

http://www.machinetoolonline.com/PM1236.html

Highest Quality Lathe, Made in TAIWAN

http://www.machinetoolonline.com/PM1340T.html

One gets a LOT of machine for the $$$ from Matt at QMT...
This machine is similar to the G4003G:

http://www.machinetoolonline.com/PM1340T.html

The QUALITY of this machine is a bargain for the price...
Then again, some folks are more interested in price than quality.

 

[Brandon1]

Re: Lathe for "S-word" and general use

I think the moderator should remove all these posts. The S-word and G word used together are going to get a lot of people "looked at". Someone correctly posted earlier that "if it can, it is". Only way one technically isn't is if it is an integral part of the airgun, and once removed cannot be reassembled to fit a real gun. And if you have a "S"er, and you take it apart, however many parts it comes apart in is how many counts you'll be looking at being charged with if it isn't registered and tax paid. Each part of one is considered to be one. Even legal owners of them cannot disassemble them even to clean or repair, they have to be sent back to the factory.

ALSO! if you are a fellon, and you have an airgun with one on it, if the ATF decides to come after you, you will be charged with possession of firearm, because an "S" is defined as a firearm by the ATF

Greg
Windsor VA

Silencers are perfectly legal for most of us to own as long as you pass the background check and pay your 200 dollar extortion fee. Many of us own them and enjoy saving our hearing. Who cares if they are being looked at? If you own a airgun you probably have filled out a few 4473's, and if you have then you are already on a list.:nervous:

Is it not possible to get a good finish on titanium using a Asian lathe? I have a Lathemaster 9x30 that I was planning on using to make a Titanium can with. Do I need to rethink my tube material?

 

[Ianagos]

No I think you'll be fine but remember titanium doesn't conduct heat away very well and you can't use coolent really. I would turn slow and try a hard hss like Rex 91 or I like mo max ( Chinese hss is junk I've burnt up several peices where mo max held up fine). Take light cuts and take your time. If the hss doesn't hold up I would try a positive rake carbide insert like ccmt. Now I'm not guaranteeing anything but that's my $.02 if you need help I'm not far away and your welcome to come use my lathe. I always like seeing others doing things and maybe ill learn something and you'll know where your lathe stands because maybe you can't get a finish in my machine either.

 

[atunguyd]

Re: Lathe for "S-word" and general use

I think the moderator should remove all these posts. The S-word and G word used together are going to get a lot of people "looked at".

With all due respect that is just silly. Removing posts for talking about suppressors that are legal to own with a license is like saying we should remove posts of people talking about driving a car because they also may not have a driving license.

Also there are many outside of the US here. Where I am a suppressor is an off the shelf item. Bought and made with no license. We even have the opposite to you with regard to concealed carry, here it is illegal to open carry.


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[alterian]

Ok guys, Ive came to the understanding that im going to NEED a Mill to make barrels for pistols. Im still going to need a lathe for suppressor and barrels purposes. Ive been looking at bolton, the CQ9336 and CQ9336A. Both of those have 1-1/2'' bores, stands and coolant systems. There both identical, other then the lenght, as far as i can tell. Since i will be working on pistols and not so much on rifles, i really dont need a 36" lathe so really looking at the CQ9336A.

Ive let the 4003G go, to expensive and I wouldnt use it to its potential. I was also looking at the 4002 but that doest come with a stand, and coolant system.

Now for the Mill i was thinking of G0704, Id probably get a CNC kit for it later. Really dont know much about CNC, so ill learn that. Would that be good enough to mill the shape of the barrels? I did see a Mill/Lathe Combo, I know, i know they tend to be Sh1tted on. But their BP290VF looks decent, it has a 1-1/2 bore. I havent figured out if there is a way to make the barrels on just the lathe. I still have a few weeks before i head back to the US, so i have some time to think still.

Can a G0704 work on Stainless, for barrel pusposes?
What are your thoughts on the lathe/mill's?

Once again thanks.

 

[Reeltor]

Your original question asked for recommendations on lathes and what you wanted to do. Make a legal suppressor and chamber a barrel.
Of the affordable new machines on the market I'd go with Matt and QMT, I've never used one but they appear to be the best available.

You will be able to single point thread on any of the lathes discussed. You can chamber a barrel on the lathe or you can do it by hand but you don't need a mill for the process. I've never machined titanium so I have no recommendation other than that I've read to use the "beefyist" machine available.

Please provide info on the 9mm barrel blank that you are planning to purchase. You may want to consider Green Mountain Rifle Barrel
http://gmriflebarrel.com
You may need a mill in order to make a raw barrel blank fit a specific handgun. Then again a lot can be done with a dremel.

At some point you probably will buy a mill, but that is a different discussion.

Good Luck

 

[dave2176]

Alterian,
looking at the Bolton, I am certain it would be my last choice. I would buy the G0602 first and live in the smaller envelope. The Bolton is missing the follow rest, stay rest, face plate, drill chuck, 4 jaw chuck.... I think the chuck mounting system is lousy, it is missing some threading ability, it is 300 pounds to light for a 12x36, no outboard spider and the pictures look like it would be impossible to add one. No QCTP, longitudinal feed only goes to .004 IPR which is too coarse for gun work. Doesn't look like it has reverse.

Never say never. Buy the G4003G and live happily ever after.
Don't get a 3 in 1.
The G0704 is a good choice for a small mill.
Dave

 

[alterian]

Your original question asked for recommendations on lathes and what you wanted to do. Make a legal suppressor and chamber a barrel.
Of the affordable new machines on the market I'd go with Matt and QMT, I've never used one but they appear to be the best available.

You will be able to single point thread on any of the lathes discussed. You can chamber a barrel on the lathe or you can do it by hand but you don't need a mill for the process. I've never machined titanium so I have no recommendation other than that I've read to use the "beefyist" machine available.

Please provide info on the 9mm barrel blank that you are planning to purchase. You may want to consider Green Mountain Rifle Barrel
http://gmriflebarrel.com
You may need a mill in order to make a raw barrel blank fit a specific handgun. Then again a lot can be done with a dremel.

At some point you probably will buy a mill, but that is a different discussion.

Good Luck

Thats the issue i have right now, im trying to see if i can shape it to match a XDm barrel.
Im thinking of this blank from GM. http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/9mm-blank-m-9mm-raw-barrel-blank-24x1-25/

 

[Reeltor]

Thats the issue i have right now, im trying to see if i can shape it to match a XDm barrel.
Im thinking of this blank from GM. http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/9mm-blank-m-9mm-raw-barrel-blank-24x1-25/

What is the greatest diameter on the raw barrel blank? Is there enough meat on the raw barrel to fabricate what you need? Have you thought about the cost of a chamber reamer? The raw barrel plus the reamer is just about what a finished barrel would cost. You can either thread it for your suppressor yourself or pay a little more for one that is already done.

 

[alterian]

you know, im not sure if there would be enough material. The Blank is 1.25, I figure that would be enough. I wish i had one of my guns so i can measure. I guess ill go look at my buddys M9 and measure that. Something is better then nothing. I guess if OD is to small on the blank, i would have to start from regular Bar stock. But then again im back at the same question. How do i make the circled part? with a Mill right? would the 0704 be enough?

Sorry if im asking the same question, just trying to clarrify.