How do you feel about what this guy has to say?

[pontiac428]

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[Pevehouse]

Wow

 

[Larry$]

Should have never sold my '68 F250! Still ran OK, but it liked to drink too much, & the rust had gotten to it.

 

[verbotenwhisky]

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I had a buddy that always screwed with me because I never buy a vehicle with the navigation screen that connects to the net through cell signal. I told him I have a cell phone that i can use for navigation and all the other services and Bluetooth connect for hands free. In 2016 the oilfield took a dump and he could not afford to buy a new car AND that was around the tine they did away with 3G so all the fancy stuff stopped working, I smiled and says, think I'll upgrade my phone.....

 

[C-Bag]

See I don’t say revenge of the nerds as a joke. I could see the writing on the wall in ‘79 when my mom bought an Olds Omega. The dealer never could get that thing to run right, or at all when cold. That early C3 and C4 computer carb was good when it was good and a nightmare when it wasn’t. Proof that “self diagnoses” was the myth us skeptics always thought it was. Notice there are no 80’s cars on the road? That was reason I bailed on the whole car repair thing in ‘88.

I think it’s hilarious you guys love EFI because it’s just born to die depending on the maker. Way too many electronics running too many cycles. Personally I liked the early Bosch CIS injection because it was mostly mechanical and there was no electronic injectors. They were just nozzles. Its only weakness was the fuel pump solenoid and it could be bypassed. But my pinnacle of ICE transportation was my ‘66 Bug so I’m very old school thank you very much. No CNC for me either.

 

[Aaron_W]

See I don’t say revenge of the nerds as a joke. I could see the writing on the wall in ‘79 when my mom bought an Olds Omega. The dealer never could get that thing to run right, or at all when cold. That early C3 and C4 computer carb was good when it was good and a nightmare when it wasn’t. Proof that “self diagnoses” was the myth us skeptics always thought it was. Notice there are no 80’s cars on the road? That was reason I bailed on the whole car repair thing in ‘88.

I think it’s hilarious you guys love EFI because it’s just born to die depending on the maker. Way too many electronics running too many cycles. Personally I liked the early Bosch CIS injection because it was mostly mechanical and there was no electronic injectors. They were just nozzles. Its only weakness was the fuel pump solenoid and it could be bypassed. But my pinnacle of ICE transportation was my ‘66 Bug so I’m very old school thank you very much. No CNC for me either.

Considering that they are 40-ish years old I see a quite a few 80s cars on the road. I think the main reason there are not even more is the various "cash for clunkers" programs. 80s cars were perfect candidates for those programs. When they were in full swing 80s cars were too new to be collectable but old enough that the rebate was often more than their used car value.

 

[Winegrower]

I agree with the general sentiment, with exceptions. I just got a 2024 Audi Q5 plug-in hybrid, that seems more like a computer than a car. It took a couple weeks of frustration and pawing through the owner's manual and watching YouTube videos to get somewhat comfortable with it. Things that worked yesterday didn't today, some things would happen by seeming magic when least expected, desired functions were buried layers deep in menus, things like that. But I got an OBDII reader and it's pretty amazing all the things you can see and control with that. Slowly I'm getting to understand the things I need and forget the things I don't.

But, the processor controls have a significant benefit...the whole car more or less can be operated by my iPhone with a lot of functions that are pretty great. Now the car is always warm (or cool) when I want it, I can know its location if it's stolen (haven't used that yet), and the driver assist features, especially adaptive cruise control are terrific. I also like the "overhead" video view of the car, which is incredibly handy for parking. There's also a front looking camera for parking near curbs, and a front and rear recording camera system. So there's that.

 

[den-den]

As someone who worked on Industrial control systems, I can say that electronic (computerized) controls CAN be easier to trouble-shoot than electro-mechanical systems but ONLY if they are designed to be worked on AND if the necessary training happens. In general solid state controls should be more reliable but if they are not designed to be repair friendly, that less frequent breakdown is such a major headache the whole thing may be scrapped. Auto manufacturers are adding bells and whistles without spending time/money on making things repair friendly.