How do you feel about what this guy has to say?

[extropic]

Please watch the video to the end (<15 minutes), he talks throughout.
The presenter on the video expresses my feelings about cars controlled by processors better than I can (and he's an expert) I'm not talking about autonomous (self-driving cars). I'm talking about IC powered passenger cars and light trucks. I'm too old to expect things will change in my lifetime. Unless I win the Lotto, I don't expect to buy any new cars, but lots of you folks have and will own cars CONTROLLED by processors.

 

[markba633csi]

Mostly agree- Electronic fuel injection is certainly nice to have but a vehicle is a hostile environment for electronics and most shops either
won't take those troubleshooting jobs or they charge a lot for it since it's so time and labor intensive to fix
Cars are considered disposable now

The factory saves money by using consumer grade (low cost) parts and the reliability suffers. If they used aerospace parts it would last forever but nobody could afford it

 

[Pevehouse]

I deal with this on a daily basis. Data bus communication issues can have you chasing your tail. Fortunately this guy already had a clue where the problem was. Without knowing your left to unplugging each computer one by one to see which module has the data is pulled to ground

 

[extropic]

Neither I nor the presenter are complaining about electronic fuel injection or any processor enhanced functionality. I'm asking about the risk of your vehicle's computer making your vehicle not-fit-for-purpose based on a fault of any type, but most particularly a non-critical fault. I personally don't want a processor doing ANYTHING more disabling than displaying a fault indicator light.
Hypothetical: A medical emergency occurs in a location where the fastest/best way to access help is to put the afflicted into your vehicle and drive to help. Uhoh! The processor has disabled the vehicle (because it senses a data network issue).

 

[Pevehouse]

I understand what you are saying. That’s the only issue with these systems. Fortunately this vehicle still ran. I had a Cadillac one time at the dealership do this to me. Had to strip the entire vehicle down to access the modules. Vehicle was dead on the water. Complete no start. Ended up being the drivers window switch was shorting out the data bus. After all that the guy finally admitted that he left the window down in a storm. If he would have mentioned that to start with it would have saved him a lot of time and therefore money

 

[MrWhoopee]

Mama has a 2012 and an '06, mine are '88, '88, '68 and '63. The '88s have electronic fuel injection, but the windows still have cranks.

 

[pontiac428]

EFI rules. Throwing away your smartphone every 3 years because updates are no longer supported sucks. Apple even got a federal slap on the wrist for retarding older phones' performance to nudge consumers into new ones. You rent software now instead of owning it. Gee, I wonder where all this is going...

 

[C-Bag]

Gee, I wonder where all this is going...

Can you say “revenge of the nerds”?

 

[extropic]

EFI rules. Throwing away your smartphone every 3 years because updates are no longer supported sucks. Apple even got a federal slap on the wrist for retarding older phones' performance to nudge consumers into new ones. You rent software now instead of owning it. Gee, I wonder where all this is going...

Exactly!

It's going toward a two class society. The super rich and the serfs.

 

[pdentrem]

My ‘07 Cobalt dash lights took a powder during the night. Fun driving with a flashlight in your mouth! Those lights are controlled via the BCM, Body Computer/Control Module. Even with the service manual we were scratching our heads. Ended up going to the web and there was a clue. The license lamp socket! Really? A little water in the socket was corroding the bulb terminals. Replace the 194 bulb and clean the socket fixed the problem.
Pierre