Sellers with no clue can be difficult, it all depends on the local market, if supply is short, it moves fast, if economy is not so good and not a lot of shoppers, different story.
I haggle for "sport", if I do not attempt to twist an arm, folks will think I am not feeling well...
We rarely find something that is priced too cheap to try for better, we still hint and usually get discount.
My plan is a take cash money, the maximum amount that I would pay period.
Split it in 1/2 and go looking.
One usually can read the seller in very little time to see if they think they have gold and will not budge or if they are flexible.
We look it over, discussing with them while asking about how they used it or where something is or how something works, takes very little time to determine if a flipper or other.
You discuss the "better" ones for less than their price as you look, you setup your offer well before you offer, they may start dropping the price if you do it right.
You pull out the partial wad of cash and ask what the minimum is for cash in hand, only offer what you will ever pay.
If they will not bite, just wish them luck, and state if they change their mind, your st
offer will be something less, and subject to another inspection to be sure nothing is missing.
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