Sons of Guns

I haven't read a lot of the comments, but I will say that I hate that show and every other "reality" tv show out there. I graduated from Colorado School of Trades in April 2011, so that show was already in full swing. I get it, they're arrogant, and it's ok to be when you have earned that right. But they act like they are the first to ever do or build something. The episode that got me the MOST was the episode when they built the AK Sniper rifle. He needed a depth micrometer to measure headspace from the action. The "boss" said "If we don't have it, tough!" What a load of crap! First, they would have a depth mic in a shop that does half of the work they do. Second, it's a $150 tool! Order it yourself and write it off at tax time!

Just making drama to be making drama.
 
They DO make gun people look like idiots. I object to them having to blow up everything and break glass all over the field they are shooting in. That other show,"American Guns?" I think the owner has a Police record(could be wrong),but it's another show that should never have been sired.

Sons of Guns also makes really stupid junk,like that ridiculous 3 gun "Gatling gun",with the long magazines sticking out every where. They couldn't manage to make a proper one,and cobbled up that silly looking thing.

All the blowing stuff up and fires make gun owners look like a bunch of maniacs. They do VERY illegal stuff too,like mounting 2 pistols under a car. Of course,when the "owner" shoots the silly things at a car,the whole car blows sky high.

All the fighting and drama on all these reality shows is sickening.

I think the WORST one I have seen,of all of them,is that show where 3 or 4 idiots try to make DaVinci's tank and other things. For some reason,every time ANY show about DaVinci airs,it is incredibly stupid. That includes "DaVinci's Demons"!!!!! These shows are all an insult to his genius.
 
Too much drama for the camera...loved the piece where the new strawboss tears the sulking mechanic a new one ---there's what looks like a $9.95 Harbor Freight digital caliper on the floor and strawboss tells the guy it's in three pieces (it wasn't) and wants to dock him $600 for damaging it. Now, I looked in my catalogues and I don't see ANY dig caliper sells for anywhere near that much, not Starrett, not Mitutoyo, not B&S:thinking:. So they just made that crap up.
 
That was about as funny as when they where complaing about having to purchase a $10,000 lathe to cut threads because the other one stopped cutting. It appeared to be just a SB or similar lathe you mean to tell me with all that equipment you could not make a pair of half nuts (probably all that was wrong)??? I mean you can build guns but you cannot repair a simple lathe??? More Drama...
 
I don't think the show will be back, and Red Jacket went out of business, even the history channel's influx of money into it couldn't save it.

A poor economy combined with poor business decisions was its downfall.

I met the Hayden's, Will and Stephanie, and Stephanie's husband Kris Ford, back in September of 2011 when they were here in Nevada filming, we have a mutual friend, they were out here visiting his shop and filming in both it and their own shop for a back to back pair of episodes.

The entire cast came off nothing like their characters on the show, so over lunch I asked Will about it, why the difference.

His response was that the show was entirely scripted, he hated it, but that he was desperate to keep the shop afloat so he, in his own words "sold my soul to the devil" and took the history channel's money. He has a wife and kids to support, and was in danger of losing the shop when the HC came along and offered the show.

They provided the majority of the "business" from that point on, and provided the shop you see on the show (his old shop was much, much, smaller, and he only had 2 people working for him, Joe and Vince) and they bought that big HAAS multi-axis machining center, plus a lot of other tooling, but from what he said, he wasn't going to get to keep it when the show ended, and at that point in 2011 it had just been renewed for 2 more seasons.

I owned and operated a gun shop for over 40 years, while at the same time having a 31 year career as a federal agent, the gun shop would have gone bust in a hurry if I had made some of the business decisions that they did on Sons of Guns, even with the income from my primary employment with Uncle Sam to help out.

Watching the show used to make me cringe for all the reasons stated in the above posts about mickey mousing the work, comments about $600 Harbor Freight calipers, etc. but it was entertaining at times to watch to see how many screw ups I could spot per episode.

I met Rich Wyatt of American Guns twice while on the job, didn't care for him at all, he was as arrogant and brash in real life , long before the show was on the air, as he was on the show. His brag that he was the last gunsmith in America that could build a gun from scratch got a laugh out of me.

I can do it, did do it a number of times, including drilling and rifling the barrels, machining the receiver from bar stock, etc. and I suspect a good many of the members on this forum could do it as well even if they had never worked a day in their lives as a gunsmith.


Wyatt was a police officer at one time, in a town of 187 people in Colorado. As far as I know, at least when I was in his shop on business, he had no police record at that time, but that was nearly a decade ago.

His wife and step kids were not in the shop on either of my visits, so I never got to meet them, a fellow agent mentioned in passing to me that he believed the wife had a career earlier in adult movies, but he hadn't followed up on that lead yet. So maybe she's the one with the record.

My personal opinion is that they didn't have to script in too much of the drama on that show, not with him on it.

Too bad they can't put a show out there which really shows the workings in small or one man gun shop, without scripting, drama, etc. Of course the only folks who would watch a real, live, down to earth show like that are those of us with an interest in firearms and machining, so it probably wouldn't draw much in the way of sponsors.
 
OUT OF BUSINESS??
WEBSIGHT STILL UP.

http://www.redjacketfirearms.com/

On the last show of the season/series, Will indicated that it was the end, of the show and the business.

Our mutual friend says things went down hill with both the business and the show at about the same time.

Will's daughter and son in law started their own business, and one of the better "gunsmiths" on the show, Glenn Flemming, left and started his own shop as well.

Will lost his FFL about a year and a half ago, the business has been operating under an FFL held by Joe Meaux, the shop manager since then.

The story that the history channel presented was that Will gave up his FFL and sold a percentage of the business to Joe and Vince Buckles (another gunsmith who left 2 years ago and started his own shop , "Mesa Kinetic") so as to share the business with his family and those he considers family.

A cousin who still works for the BATFE told me that it was because they (BATFE) were going to yank the license, because during an audit some registered receivers and other NFA items were found to be missing, and it wasn't the first time it had happened.

All hearsay, so maybe they are still in business, but from what I have seen of the way they were operating it, it's a miracle they made it this long.
 
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