Sons of Guns

[Tom Griffin]

Alright, who brought up this thread again? Just when you think it's gone for good, it's back. I've been avoiding it, hoping it would die a horrible death but I can't stand it any longer.

These jokers seriously give real gunsmiths a bad name. It's the typical monotonous reality show set-up you see over and over again; a small business owner with an ego the size of Manhattan, surrounded by a bunch of idiots, with one or two thinking they run the show. Enough of reality shows! I'm with 1200rpm, bring on the Twilight Zone re-runs.

Tom

 

[Tom Griffin]

I do feel much better now.

 

[ScrapMetal]

I'll agree with you Tom. When I've watched the show the main thing that always goes through my mind is, "Now I know where NOT to get a gun from."

-Ron

 

[AJB]

It is staged. I know someone who appeared on the show as a customer. He was recruited by the producer and basically given a script to follow. Personally, I don't care much for the show but I have watched a few episodes. In one eppisode the customer brought a firearm to the front counter for modification. The owner then brought the rifle into the shop and told the employee what he wanted done. Problem was, if you payed close attention you could see that it was two different guns.

 

[Video_man]

Last night's show left me scratchin' my head. They have what purports to be a 125-yr old Volcanic pistol, which used a caseless bullet with a powder chamber in it, sealed by a plate with a hole in it for ignition (from what I don't know, as the rounds are supposedly self-contained). Anywho, the mechanic who is making projectiles for this takes a lead bullet in one hand and a cordless drill in the other to drill out the powder chamber --- yeah, it's well-centered and the proper depth, if he didn't drill a hole in his hand first. Then he puts the projectile in a bench vise with serrated jaws to press in a primer, or a plate, they didn't say --- sure, that's the way to do it, if it doesn't fire the primer it will bung up the nose of the projectile...I'd make a split clamp out of aluminum or maple, cavity to appropriate size and depth, and center it up, mill the chamber with a 2 flute---press in the primer very carefully with a small arbor press, maybe... (I had to throw that in to have some machining relevance, here, instead of a rant....:biggrin

But they lost me way back when the know-it-all boss tears a mechanic a new one for wanting to use a depth mike to check headspace...basic tool any gunsmith uses all the time --- he tells the mechanic to eyeball it.....+ or - .001, good eyes, guy!:thinking:

 

[ScrapMetal]

Last night's show left me scratchin' my head. They have what purports to be a 125-yr old Volcanic pistol, which used a caseless bullet with a powder chamber in it, sealed by a plate with a hole in it for ignition (from what I don't know, as the rounds are supposedly self-contained). Anywho, the mechanic who is making projectiles for this takes a lead bullet in one hand and a cordless drill in the other to drill out the powder chamber --- yeah, it's well-centered and the proper depth, if he didn't drill a hole in his hand first. Then he puts the projectile in a bench vise with serrated jaws to press in a primer, or a plate, they didn't say --- sure, that's the way to do it, if it doesn't fire the primer it will bung up the nose of the projectile...I'd make a split clamp out of aluminum or maple, cavity to appropriate size and depth, and center it up, mill the chamber with a 2 flute---press in the primer very carefully with a small arbor press, maybe... (I had to throw that in to have some machining revelance, here, instead of a rant....:biggrin

But they lost me way back when the know-it-all boss tears a mechanic a new one for wanting to use a depth mike to check headspace...basic tool any gunsmith uses all the time --- he tells the mechanic to eyeball it.....+ or - .001, good eyes, guy!:thinking:

Definitely not going to learn a whole lot about gunsmithing watching that show.

-Ron

 

[clearcaseman]

These guys do in fact give gun smiths a bad name. I had a set of plans for a non lethal canon that I wanted to forward to wil back when they did the cargo ship episode and put bottle rockets on the ship for protection. I called the shop and told the woman who answered what I had for wil and it was free. i just wanted 2 minutes of his time to give him background on what i was gonna send him and I was told the whole cargo ship thing was setup they don't do that kind of work and wil couldn't be bothered to talk, then started looking around the web and have seen hundreds of people out there with substandard weapons purchased from them, and could not get satisfactory service.

OK:lmao: Then I watched it:lmao:and then I watched it a second time:lmao:. Gun shops like that give real gun owners a bad name. Drama and screw ups and if I remember there was one other gun show flying around in a helicopter or some joke coming off like a money bag expert:lmao:, I'd rather be on line chating with real people:biggrin: Not watching a bunch of drama queens.

Ok American chopper was ok in the start then became a bunch of drama queens on there as well:lmao: Its funny how these guys have to send out work and those are the guys who deserve a real break- its like in the old days a guy put his name on a clock or watch and most of the parts were made by other guys, :thinking:

Oh and american restorations having to call in expert on toy train to ask if it would hurt to repaint:lmao: classy operation there, again cluess guys having a TV show, not jealous at all by the way:biggrin: I for one would not want someone with a camera hanging over me during a restoration, that brings me back to sons of guns that is how accidents happen, screwing around very surprised no one got hurt, some of that high tec ammo there are using can travel a long ways, those who hunt know what I mean ( opening day your ducking bullets):thinking:

Enough said:lmao::biggrin:

 

[jumps4]

i'm not a gunsmith
so you guys are saying that show isnt a comedy?:thinking:
i watched it about half way once it is as good as the duck call show and the beverly hillbillies ever were
steve

 

[jbmachine]

Got to love the episode with the revolver make/repair in the VMC held in a super spacer spinning the mpg wheel at a fixed feed rate but the cutter looked like it came from a dremal tool key way cutter
and wonder why they break.

but that show is a game changer


love the xbox private army machine gun turret with clips - so you press pause on the controller to reload and hope you dont get your head blown off

 

[MG-42]

We had a TV crew out here at my shop 2 years ago. The policy in my shop is no drama so no show. 8 hrs of filming for 15 minutes of production. No real work was done just redo after redo.