POTD- PROJECT OF THE DAY: What Did You Make In Your Shop Today?

[PNW_Guy]

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Such a wonderful feeling to see the finish line.
I did the same thing you did. Just add in that I ran out of cash for the framing so I had to do @25% of it myself. But moving in made it all worth it.
Unfortunately, a year and a half later I was moving out due to the divorce. Still worth it.

I'm glad I didn't roof that one!

My house is actually a huge shop, with a cozy living area. I designed it to look like a normal house with a large garage.
I have a 30x40 spot that is split between garage and wood shop (there's a 8' sliding barn door between the two) as well as a 32 x 40 for metal, cars and machining.

The living space is on the far left and in the second story. The big shop is the space on the right with roll up doors. Garage/woodshop is begind the two dark gray rollup doors under the awning.

This was a very gray day, before I brought in rock and gravel on the driveway.

 

[wachuko]

Another silly project... Brother-in-law likes bottle opener with magnets on it. Last time he was here he got this one and asked me if I could put magnets on it...



Done!

 

[Inferno]

I'm glad I didn't roof that one!

The back sloped down as well as the side. It was 40 feet drop if someone fell off that back corner.

 

[Eyerelief]

Is that an open or closed cell foam?

We went with blown cellulose (The new stuff isn't the stuff that settles, it's blown in wet with water based adhesive, and scraped flat to the stud surface). The R value is around 3.7 per inch, but it fills the gaps better than spray foam that expands.

Anyway, in our new house my biggest complaint (and really only complaint) is that it's so tight we have trouble keeping moisture level down. Even with the air to air exchange, between the wife's plants, teenage girls showering, their fish tank, and other sources of water there's quite a bit of humidity input. The other compounding issue is we have a heat pump system. The AC is overly large because it functions as the heater also. In in AC mode, it doesn't have enough contact time with the air to remove moisture, it just makes cold wet air.
A smaller AC unit would work longer with a lower delta T, and remove much more moisture in the process. In the summer you want moderately cool but dry air, not cold wet air. The house is so tight, even in the dead of winter we have trouble keeping moisture down.

Around here in general, we have issues with moisture from the house traveling through the wall due to long cold winters. There are people that have messed up vapor barriers, and completely rotted studs walls in under 10 years because of this. Part of our decision for cellulose is that it doesn't impede vapor egress like closed cell foam. Other climates may have completely different concerns.

It is open cell. I looked into closed cell and from my understanding that the big benefit to spray foam is that it seals up places where air can egress / ingress. Although there is a higher r value to closed cell, it doesnt necessarily translate linearly into utility bill savings. The astonishing about closed cell is that it is so rigid that it makes a structure up to 300% stronger. I think I built mine strong enough. Couldnt justify the double in price for the closed cell. I will say that now that the drywall is up, the house is very quiet inside and temp changes are slow. Even though it is 100 + outside, the inside of the house seems to hang at about 80 degrees. And there is no power in the house yet. Looking forward to getting AC running in the next couple of weeks.

 

[Firstram]

It is open cell. I looked into closed cell and from my understanding that the big benefit to spray foam is that it seals up places where air can egress / ingress. Although there is a higher r value to closed cell, it doesnt necessarily translate linearly into utility bill savings. The astonishing about closed cell is that it is so rigid that it makes a structure up to 300% stronger. I think I built mine strong enough. Couldnt justify the double in price for the closed cell. I will say that now that the drywall is up, the house is very quiet inside and temp changes are slow. Even though it is 100 + outside, the inside of the house seems to hang at about 80 degrees. And there is no power in the house yet. Looking forward to getting AC running in the next couple of weeks.

I retrofitted my roof deck with open cell, Icenine(sp). Water flows through open cell and you will notice a leak, r value isn’t everything! The lack of air flow through the wall is what makes the system work.

 

[Firstram]

Is that an open or closed cell foam?

We went with blown cellulose (The new stuff isn't the stuff that settles, it's blown in wet with water based adhesive, and scraped flat to the stud surface). The R value is around 3.7 per inch, but it fills the gaps better than spray foam that expands.

Anyway, in our new house my biggest complaint (and really only complaint) is that it's so tight we have trouble keeping moisture level down. Even with the air to air exchange, between the wife's plants, teenage girls showering, their fish tank, and other sources of water there's quite a bit of humidity input. The other compounding issue is we have a heat pump system. The AC is overly large because it functions as the heater also. In in AC mode, it doesn't have enough contact time with the air to remove moisture, it just makes cold wet air.
A smaller AC unit would work longer with a lower delta T, and remove much more moisture in the process. In the summer you want moderately cool but dry air, not cold wet air. The house is so tight, even in the dead of winter we have trouble keeping moisture down.

Around here in general, we have issues with moisture from the house traveling through the wall due to long cold winters. There are people that have messed up vapor barriers, and completely rotted studs walls in under 10 years because of this. Part of our decision for cellulose is that it doesn't impede vapor egress like closed cell foam. Other climates may have completely different concerns.

Just add a whole house dehumidifier sized to your house and reap the benefits!

 

[dkemppai]

Just add a whole house dehumidifier sized to your house and reap the benefits!

I've looked into that, reviews on units are hard to sort through. Appropriately sized units aren't cheap plus the work of installing (not hard, just a pain). So started with a large standalone dehumidifier in the basement. Cool wet air falls down there, and gets dried up. So far it's keeping things more or less under control.

It's just a different problem than any previous house. Those were nosebleed dry for 6 months during winter. You couldn't generate enough humidity.

 

[pontiac428]

Last night, I got a nice NOS Jacobs arbor to complete my Albrecht family tree. I'm moving up in the world, now MT#3 is my small common taper, and MT#4 is the large. I don't have any MT#2 native spindles anymore, so maybe I should swap those out too.

I've got a bucket full of Jacobs chucks, many unworn, at least one has NOS cosmoline still. If they weren't well suited as backups, I'd pour them overboard and chum the water with them. It's hard to go back after using Albrechts.

 

[Firstram]

It's just a different problem than any previous house. Those were nosebleed dry for 6 months during winter. You couldn't generate enough humidity.

That's from air leakage, your house is tight now! Yes it's expensive but, a dehumidifier needs to be tied into your ductwork so it conditions the entire house. The expense will be offset by not needing to run the ac as much, it's all about perceived comfort. Get the relative humidity down to 45-50% and warmer temps feel more comfortable.

 

[Firstram]

Last night, I got a nice NOS Jacobs arbor to complete my Albrecht family tree. I'm moving up in the world, now MT#3 is my small common taper, and MT#4 is the large. I don't have any MT#2 native spindles anymore, so maybe I should swap those out too.

I've got a bucket full of Jacobs chucks, many unworn, at least one has NOS cosmoline still. If they weren't well suited as backups, I'd pour them overboard and chum the water with them. It's hard to go back after using Albrechts.

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Happy to PM you my address if you want to pass them along. I have a DP that needs a good Jacobs!