Need to cut 2 angles.

[defcon]

I'm a beginner and still need to buy a book to learn the basics. Also I'm looking for images or drawings of different ways to clamp an object onto the table without a vice. I heard that clamping is an art of itself

I'm using a DTA stock and a .22LR Savage MKII.

I need to cut out 2 angles on top to make it blend with the stock and I'm trying to figure out whether I need to buy a band saw, angle block plates, tilting vice, titling table

Vise, 3.5" 0-90 Degree Tilting


Angle block plate


Tilting table 5"x7"

 

[chuckorlando]

I'm not a gun guy so I have no clue what your talking about. But, if you need to mill an angle across the top of that chunk of metal then any would work possibly. If the angle needs to be cut side to side then that vise wont do nothing for you. It wont open large enough for the metal stock. For strength that angle table would be best. You could clamp the stock flat and angle the whole deal. You could put it up on angle blocks or gage blocks but it's gonna want to lay on it's side. So you would need to capture it from the sides and the rear and likely in front of the angle block. As the two angle will want to slide apart. In a vise it aint a big deal as it captures the work.

 

[pineyfolks]

What type mill do you have? Depending on the angle you need and the accuracy, you may be able to clamp to a piece of angle iron 90 deg side up giving you an aprox. 45 deg angle. You can change the angle by milling one leg off. That's a cheap way if your head doesn't tilt.

 

[Karl_T]

I'd suggest thinking past one single project...

IF you have a full size mill, the tilting table can't be beat. it would open up all sorts of future projects.

A sine plate is another great option you don't mention. if you have the time, these aren't terribly hard to build yourself. EDIT quick google search found a guy that built a compound sine plate, VERY fancy
http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?p=143659

The angle parallels are super handy, everybody should have a set.

karl

 

[Andre]

Nice! A bullpup MK2. If you can pillar bed it it will be a sweet shooter, are you trying to make a scope rail/base with that alu block? Those angles can be cut with angle wedges in the mill like you would use a sine bar in a vise. You can even make the wedges by setting a small aluminum plate in the vise, eyeball the right angle and mill it flat. I've made a few angle wedges that way, still use them. Mystery angles though haha.

Please update this thread with your build, a bullpup MK2 plinker must be a ton of fun. By any chance do you plan to suppress it? With the bullpup design your ears are a lot closer to the muzzle than normal and will sound louder. But with CCI std. it's quiet enough anyway.

How will you work out the trigger linkage?

 

[pineyfolks]

Seems like you have a lot of material for the job you're doing. Have you thought of using round stock and letting it set on the vee in the stock? I guess I'm thinking of some type of free float tube, maybe to the end of the barrel for a fake suppressor look.....

 

[defcon]

i have a little machine shop air spring mini mill with a solid column

wouldnt a band saw be faster to cut?

 

[defcon]

Seems like you have a lot of material for the job you're doing. Have you thought of using round stock and letting it set on the vee in the stock? I guess I'm thinking of some type of free float tube, maybe to the end of the barrel for a fake suppressor look.....

nope. ive never though of using a round stock. i guess id have to get a larger round stock and shape it.

i can do that in the future but would like to work with what i have

 

[defcon]

Nice! A bullpup MK2. If you can pillar bed it it will be a sweet shooter, are you trying to make a scope rail/base with that alu block? Those angles can be cut with angle wedges in the mill like you would use a sine bar in a vise. You can even make the wedges by setting a small aluminum plate in the vise, eyeball the right angle and mill it flat. I've made a few angle wedges that way, still use them. Mystery angles though haha.

Please update this thread with your build, a bullpup MK2 plinker must be a ton of fun. By any chance do you plan to suppress it? With the bullpup design your ears are a lot closer to the muzzle than normal and will sound louder. But with CCI std. it's quiet enough anyway.

How will you work out the trigger linkage?

yes i normally pillar bed it using devcon epoxy putty

im going to just drill and tap the top part and put an aftermarket rail.

im still digesting the machining lingo since its a new language for me to understand. im test software engineer so eventually ill get it.

at the moment, i dont care about precision/accuracy of the cuts. just as long as it looks even ill be fine with it.

seeing pictures as examples will help me a lot since im more of a visual learner.

i cant supress it because im in California. ive done bullpups before and just use a 1/8" aluminum rod and just bend it with a vice and hammer

 

[defcon]

What type mill do you have? Depending on the angle you need and the accuracy, you may be able to clamp to a piece of angle iron 90 deg side up giving you an aprox. 45 deg angle. You can change the angle by milling one leg off. That's a cheap way if your head doesn't tilt.

i have a LMS mini mill. by any chance do you have a picture of this example?