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@tim81

Gauges/gage: I posted some of my results on plunge style dial micrometers. Clockwise makes a very nice digital plunge micrometer that is a lot cheaper than some of the micrometers mentioned above. By the way for a little more $ you can get a cable for it which connects right to a PC via the USB port and you can record a reading write into an excel or word document. (There are lots of versions of this style micrometer on the web, but this one works well.) I have purchased 3 of them and checked the calibrations and they meet their spec. I spent several days measuring one of these (~5 micron over 1 inch)! I also purchased a couple of others that were a bit cheaper, but they did not work nearly as well. Get the 1 inch plunge length version that measures down to 1 micron, DITR-0105. It is about $64 on Amazon. The cable model number is DTCR-01 cable, ~$35. It is on Amazon. See my posting:
As far as dial gauges are concerned I recently did a lot of testing on digital, 25mm (1") plunge style, gauge and am impressed with the units from Clockwise, and they are available on Amazon.
By the way, wrt, to any of the digital gauges, if you are not going to use them for a long while (>month) take the batteries out. Some of them are software powered up, but stay on even after you hit the off button and the display shuts down. Anyway, after sometime the batteries die. They probably do this to save the latest auto zero position. They all work a little differently. The Clockwise use a lithium 3 volt cell which lasts a long time if you take it out.

Clockwise even sent me email after I had had the micrometer a week or so asking me if I was happy with it!! They are trying. They sell a lot of tooling but I have not had much opportunity to test their other stuff. They have a decent listing of stuff on Aliexpress. At least they are trying.

At this posting you will see that I also purchased a set of digital micrometers (C shaped style). I did do simple calibration checks on them as well and they seemed to be as good as I could measure. When you get down to the micron scale dirt, finger oil are problems as well as alignment, parallelism of the measurement. Also thermal expansion, i.e. temperature variations cause measurement changes!
 
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@tim81

Gauges/gage: I posted some of my results on plunge style dial micrometers. Clockwise makes a very nice digital plunge micrometer that is a lot cheaper than some of the micrometers mentioned above. By the way for a little more $ you can get a cable for it which connects right to a PC via the USB port and you can record a reading write into an excel or word document. (There are lots of versions of this style micrometer on the web, but this one works well.) I have purchased 3 of them and checked the calibrations and they meet their spec. I spent several days measuring one of these (~5 micron over 1 inch)! I also purchased a couple of others that were a bit cheaper, but they did not work nearly as well. Get the 1 inch plunge length version that measures down to 1 micron, DITR-0105. It is about $64 on Amazon. The cable model number is DTCR-01 cable, ~$35. It is on Amazon. See my posting:

By the way, wrt, to any of the digital gauges, if you are not going to use them for a long while (>month) take the batteries out. Some of them are software powered up, but stay on even after you hit the off button and the display shuts down. Anyway, after sometime the batteries die. They probably do this to save the latest auto zero position. They all work a little differently. The Clockwise use a lithium 3 volt cell which lasts a long time if you take it out.

Clockwise even sent me email after I had had the micrometer a week or so asking me if I was happy with it!! They are trying. They sell a lot of tooling but I have not had much opportunity to test their other stuff. They have a decent listing of stuff on Aliexpress. At least they are trying.

At this posting you will see that I also purchased a set of digital micrometers (C shaped style). I did do simple calibration checks on them as well and they seemed to be as good as I could measure. When you get down to the micron scale dirt, finger oil are problems as well as alignment, parallelism of the measurement. Also thermal expansion, i.e. temperature variations cause measurement changes!
Thanks a lot the help man. I am over the head and I am realizing it now. I send PM an email asking for things to check after explaining the situation and for parts prices, hope they reply soon.

NEWS: just got their automated email that they will start shipping the PM940M soon.
 
I will make a video of the lathe later and post it. By the way how hard should it be to move the cross feed. The tail stock handwheel spins freely the carriage needs some force and the cross slide comparable to the carriage. How can I found out if requiring more force them it should. Any way to measure it?

=Tim
 
I will make a video of the lathe later and post it. By the way how hard should it be to move the cross feed. The tail stock handwheel spins freely the carriage needs some force and the cross slide comparable to the carriage. How can I found out if requiring more force them it should. Any way to measure it?

=Tim
Check your gib adjustment...
 
I do not know if the video is actually there; but if it is this is a light cut in aluminum using a 3" face mill on my PM940V-PDF.
 

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carriage needs some force and the cross slide comparable to the carriage
The tail stock should turn pretty freely. The x-feed and the carriage feed take a little force but not a lot. If the gibs are over tighten it will take more force as they are geared up. Since the forces are similar it probably an ok sign that the fall did not damage the gears or the lead screws. Since you broke the cross-feed handle off, if anything, I would think this might be where you would see some difficulty .... if there were damage to the internal parts. So as @verbotenwhisky says, look at the gib. Loosen it up a lot and it should move as freely as it ever will. Gibs are usually held in by screws on both ends, but not always. Check the manual, which you can download from PM. It should show you how to adjust the gibs on your lathe. Too tight and you will not be able to turn the handle without a lot of force.

Anyway, forcing things seldom leads to good results! If a gib is too loose, then you will not get good cuts as the saddle will move to easily and also twist and flop around. If after loosening the gib the parts do not move then you should probably take it apart and see why. Since, you have never used this "used" lathe there is the possibility it just worn. ... but you say the saddle and the x-feed move with about the same force it is probably ok.
 
The tail stock should turn pretty freely. The x-feed and the carriage feed take a little force but not a lot. If the gibs are over tighten it will take more force as they are geared up. Since the forces are similar it probably an ok sign that the fall did not damage the gears or the lead screws. Since you broke the cross-feed handle off, if anything, I would think this might be where you would see some difficulty .... if there were damage to the internal parts. So as @verbotenwhisky says, look at the gib. Loosen it up a lot and it should move as freely as it ever will. Gibs are usually held in by screws on both ends, but not always. Check the manual, which you can download from PM. It should show you how to adjust the gibs on your lathe. Too tight and you will not be able to turn the handle without a lot of force.

Anyway, forcing things seldom leads to good results! If a gib is too loose, then you will not get good cuts as the saddle will move to easily and also twist and flop around. If after loosening the gib the parts do not move then you should probably take it apart and see why. Since, you have never used this "used" lathe there is the possibility it just worn. ... but you say the saddle and the x-feed move with about the same force it is probably ok.
Thanks a lot man. I will try to fix the power switch and see. I got the manual in the phone now and will read it asap
 
Will try to loan the tools for checking the milling machine when it comes and see how it looks. If not will try to tramm it. And little by little get the tools on the pdf and from the accusize they seemed to have a lot of reviews too.


Thanks a lot guys for you immense help.. All of you spared your time to help me out. I will do the same if you ever need my help.

Tim
I very much like Accusize, they are Canadian and I have purchased quite a bit from them through Amazon. The Gauge looks nice and will likely perform well; however, you do realize that gauge only has 1/2" travel with 1/10000" graduations? If you have many instruments already this would be a nice addition; but it would not be a great first/only dial indicator, it is really more of a dial test indicator.

If you are looking for gauges to tram your mill I would suggest https://www.amazon.com/SST-Mini-Lat...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583451676256931&psc=1 I have this and not only is it a solid tool to start with, it comes with 2 very nice gauges with 1" travel graduated in 5/10000" which can be used independently as gauges. I get the mill trammed using this then went back with a DTI later and fine tuned it, truth is this tool had it extremely close, good enough for standard operations.
 
I very much like Accusize, they are Canadian and I have purchased quite a bit from them through Amazon. The Gauge looks nice and will likely perform well; however, you do realize that gauge only has 1/2" travel with 1/10000" graduations? If you have many instruments already this would be a nice addition; but it would not be a great first/only dial indicator, it is really more of a dial test indicator.

If you are looking for gauges to tram your mill I would suggest https://www.amazon.com/SST-Mini-Lat...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583451676256931&psc=1 I have this and not only is it a solid tool to start with, it comes with 2 very nice gauges with 1" travel graduated in 5/10000" which can be used independently as gauges. I get the mill trammed using this then went back with a DTI later and fine tuned it, truth is this tool had it extremely close, good enough for standard operations.
Will get them all, just need to wait for the next paychecks :). Dang I need more tools :)
 
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