Tramming made easy!!!!

I have been looking at these. I have also been looking at a bigger one of these:

http://www.eztram.com/product_results.asp?ID=5

... I used a small one of these on my Sherline and it really sped things up. My problem is occasionally needing to move the head after mounting the work, and having a hard time without a surface to tram to when the table has a vice or work held down to it.

Bob- when does your mill come?? 8)

Bernie
 
Bob- when does your mill come?? 8)

Bernie

Bernie,
Bill is currently doing some upgrades and a minor overhaul on it for me before he ships it down to Fla. He put in a riser to open the throat a bit and has replaced the Quill and done a motor upgrade to 1.5 horses. Once he gets done with the repairs and adjustments he is going to have it shipped by a freight company down here. We spoke the other day and he said he is hoping that I get it in and installed for Christmas or there about. It is going to be one heck of a Christmas present to myself this year!!! My uncle passed away and the extra money I had came from his estate, so I spent some of it on getting that machine and some tooling because he would have approved of that use of his money. He was a tinkerer from way back and I think that is where I got mine from, so it is in honor to his memory that I am able to pull it all together finally.

Bob
 
Built one with two old indicators it is fast and accurate. Ray
 
Bernie,
Bill is currently doing some upgrades and a minor overhaul on it for me before he ships it down to Fla. He put in a riser to open the throat a bit and has replaced the Quill and done a motor upgrade to 1.5 horses. Once he gets done with the repairs and adjustments he is going to have it shipped by a freight company down here. We spoke the other day and he said he is hoping that I get it in and installed for Christmas or there about. It is going to be one heck of a Christmas present to myself this year!!! My uncle passed away and the extra money I had came from his estate, so I spent some of it on getting that machine and some tooling because he would have approved of that use of his money. He was a tinkerer from way back and I think that is where I got mine from, so it is in honor to his memory that I am able to pull it all together finally.

Bob

Bob I am so happy for you! Whahoo! I can't wait to see pics!!

I think it is especially wonderful that your Uncle was a tinkerer, and that you will be putting his gift back into this.. You are doing him good!


Bernie
 
Greetings. I posted this elsewhere but I thought it might be easier to find here. I had to tram my LMS 3960 Mini Mill twice &, even using only one indicator, here's how I quickly got I got the 4-bolt column trammed really close.

I trammed the column last spring but, since I removed it to simplify installing the DRO scales, I had to tram it again. Last spring I made up a simple mount for the indicator & had decent results [within 0.002 in. over about 4 in of table travel]. This time I wanted to get it nearly perfect so I studied & followed the instructions in the manual &, to my surprise [at first], I overcorrected the error. The manual said to center the table under the spindle & take readings as far from the spindle as possible. I made an indicator mount that reached the 4 corners of the table & immediately found an error from the highest to the lowest corners of about 0.045 in. which seemed pretty high. I shimmed the corner with the highest deviation from "0" 0.045 in. & was surprised to find it even further off & in the opposite direction! After pondering this I found that increasing the distance between indication points to a distance that's greater than the column mounting bolt pattern magnified the error & that adding the shim thickness obtained this way grossly overcorrects the error. Bottom line: measure the spacing between the column mounting bolts & sweep the table [using parallels or smooth 1-2-3 blocks to avoid slots in the table] in a pattern the same size as the mounting bolt pattern & as closely as possible to the actual bolt pattern center. After measuring it this way I shimmed it again &, after tightening the bolts, the runout was 0.0005 in. within the pattern space &, from one corner of the table to the other, I had about 0.002 in. Hope this is helpful.
 
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I can't say I am a machinist but, when I tram a mill I use a coaxial indicator. Easy peasey
 
I can quickly tram mine with my dial indicator.
I have an L shaped round bar I put in a collet and preload my indicator and set for 0.
With the spindle in neutral I can easily move the contact point 180 out and if it's off I split the difference adjusting the head, reset to 0 swing 180 just to make sure it matches.
Best part is it doesn't involve me spending money that could be used for other tooling. :LOL:


Bernie, I have eyed those ez-trams for quite awhile but I have my vise set off center so I have plenty of room to tram away from it.
 
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The Edge Easy Tram arrived today!!!! Very nicely boxed from the vendor and in a nice blow molded storage case with a hard foam cut out to fit it snugly. The device is well machined and the anodizing is excellent with no visible flaws or light spots. The machined surfaces of the chuck attachment are well turned and highly polished. Both of the DTI are reading identical at rest positions so there will be a correlation to them being in the same plane also when I am using the tool. The instructions are included and have a nice procedure to eliminate any possible variance caused by a worn collet. Those instructions are well written English and not ambiguous like some chinglish manuals out there. The device is American made and sold/distributed by Edge Technology. The included standard is also magnetized which is a very nice touch since it is very small and could easily get dropped otherwise and lost. The shipping time and shipping cost were both in line with standard packaging and it arrived in a medium FRP box from the usps. They did pack the rest of the box with biodegradable packing peanuts which dissolve when exposed to water rather than blowing all around the landfill and being eaten by the local critters. All in all I am very impressed with the overall look and feel of this device and look forward to employing it on my soon to arrive Clausing 8520 mill. The device is capable of tramming 2 axis of your machine and it guarantees that you will be able to accomplish this tedious task much more quickly if you use this device. Right now without actually using the device I think it is well worth the price of admission and should significantly ease an otherwise tedious task in my shop.

Bob
 
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I have a bearing race thats appx 14 inches in diameter and about 1 1/2 thick. I use it and a brown and sharp dti to tram. The bearing was thown in the scrap bucket at work and was brand new. It must have been a discontinued part or part of a massive cleanup. Gave the inner race to a pal of mine.
 
The Edge Easy Tram arrived today!!!! Very nicely boxed from the vendor and in a nice blow molded storage case with a hard foam cut out to fit it snugly. The device is well machined and the anodizing is excellent with no visible flaws or light spots. The machined surfaces of the chuck attachment are well turned and highly polished. Both of the DTI are reading identical at rest positions so there will be a correlation to them being in the same plane also when I am using the tool. The instructions are included and have a nice procedure to eliminate any possible variance caused by a worn collet. Those instructions are well written English and not ambiguous like some chinglish manuals out there. The device is American made and sold/distributed by Edge Technology. The included standard is also magnetized which is a very nice touch since it is very small and could easily get dropped otherwise and lost. The shipping time and shipping cost were both in line with standard packaging and it arrived in a medium FRP box from the usps. They did pack the rest of the box with biodegradable packing peanuts which dissolve when exposed to water rather than blowing all around the landfill and being eaten by the local critters. All in all I am very impressed with the overall look and feel of this device and look forward to employing it on my soon to arrive Clausing 8520 mill. The device is capable of tramming 2 axis of your machine and it guarantees that you will be able to accomplish this tedious task much more quickly if you use this device. Right now without actually using the device I think it is well worth the price of admission and should significantly ease an otherwise tedious task in my shop.

Bob
Excellent review.
I do like the bio-degradable packing.
 
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