I'm glad YOU didn't have to too! Good news is, a quick fit has her spinning smooth as silk (I'm actually surprised). Funny story though... I lost a gear! I tore the house apart, my truck, the shop, dumped out garbage cans... Turns out the boy has an affinity for things of the mechanical variety... I found it in his closet, hidden where he always hides things. How can you be mad at a kid for loving the same thing you do, and causing no harm, but a few grey hairs? Parenting sucks, because there's still an important lesson that has to be learned. A shepherd still uses the hook on his staff to guide, before using the point to hurt, so we'll let the punishment fit the crime.
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Southbend 9 x 48 - How worn is too worn?
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I'm glad YOU didn't have to too! Good news is, a quick fit has her spinning smooth as silk (I'm actually surprised). Funny story though... I lost a gear! I tore the house apart, my truck, the shop, dumped out garbage cans... Turns out the boy has an affinity for things of the mechanical variety... I found it in his closet, hidden where he always hides things. How can you be mad at a kid for loving the same thing you do, and causing no harm, but a few grey hairs? Parenting sucks, because there's still an important lesson that has to be learned. A shepherd still uses the hook on his staff to guide, before using the point to hurt, so we'll let the punishment fit the crime.
God bless him, and you too for not getting overupset about it.Ha! We had a good laugh about it too! It's easy to forget, but my uncle, who is arguably the best father I've ever known, told me once as a young man... "Parenting is easy, kids learn their own lessons, it's all about saving them from the ones that cost the most (their life). The hard part is not blowing your lid about the ones that don't.". If there is a man on earth I strive to be like, it's him.
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A couple more (un-finished) options for the oil cups.
I like this one, with a little hand shaping I think it might be my favorite.
I like this for the big reservoir, but it's a little bulky, I afraid it might get knocked off too easily.
Different cap
Now that I'm a little deeper in it, I'm thinking about concealing the delivery system, and piping it to a set of large cups behind the lathe.
I have 2 options as I see it.
1 - Gravity fed in which case the cups would have to sit up high enough to be exposed, and easily damaged.
2 - Pressure fed, by rigging up a pump on top of the cups, Just a few psi, for just a moment to re-feed the gallery/reservoir. In this case I'd be able to hide it all, which would be my favored route. I think that having a sealed pump delivery though might just wind up either starving the system, or pushing oil out of every bearing contact.
Just toying with the idea, but I think it would be pretty cool.
I like this one, with a little hand shaping I think it might be my favorite.
I like this for the big reservoir, but it's a little bulky, I afraid it might get knocked off too easily.
Different cap
Now that I'm a little deeper in it, I'm thinking about concealing the delivery system, and piping it to a set of large cups behind the lathe.
I have 2 options as I see it.
1 - Gravity fed in which case the cups would have to sit up high enough to be exposed, and easily damaged.
2 - Pressure fed, by rigging up a pump on top of the cups, Just a few psi, for just a moment to re-feed the gallery/reservoir. In this case I'd be able to hide it all, which would be my favored route. I think that having a sealed pump delivery though might just wind up either starving the system, or pushing oil out of every bearing contact.
Just toying with the idea, but I think it would be pretty cool.
Looks like my stand was probably a southbend, the knob on the cabinet door is identical to the rest of the lathe, but either the tray belonged to a something else, or the whole thing was designed for one of the heavy models +. There's a cutout in th cabinet top for a belt, but not in the tray, and the tray lip is too deep for the QC Levers to operate without risers under the feet.
The channel iron these were on isnt very high quality, +-.05 in height variance. I took these to a local job shop to see what they wanted to kiss the tops and bottoms. 2-2.5 hours!! I'm not putting $200.00 into crappy metal, plus I'm pretty sure I can do it on my DP in about the same amount of time. On the + side, I did get a lead on an unadvertised machine tool repair shop that may be able to re-grind my bed. Sounds like one of these old timers who won't take his boots off, and will fix your kids tonka truck on the same invoice he builds your custom spaceship on. Sounds promising.
The other piece goes under the headstock and has an extension welded on the back for the motor mount.
The tops averaged out to about even, so I started with the rails.
Dirty milling attempt in progress. I haven't started in on the tops yet, maybe today. If it gives me too much grief, I'm going to the scrap yard to look for a big hunk of iron. At least I won't mind paying a few bills on a good piece of material.
Just as a safety note for those like me who will one day search for evidence that a drill press can be a GOOD substitute for a milling machine. My drill press has a special chuck (Jacobs 33-34c). It has a collar at the top of the taper, that threads onto the spindle and keeps it from coming off until you want it to.
I filled the body with epoxy granite, welded angle iron into the column, and filled it too. It has real column clamps on the column, and the quill, which is 10in long and supports the spindle with 4 tapered roller bearings, and the table is supported at the end by a heavy duty automotive screw jack. It still vibrates like cheap hotel quarter bed if I use cutter bigger than 3/16 or do more than kiss off more than about .02. It's an awesome drill press, and a life saver since I don't have a proper milling machine yet, but it's a sorry substitute for the real thing.
I would not feel safe at all trying anything like this with a standard drill chuck held only by the taper.
The channel iron these were on isnt very high quality, +-.05 in height variance. I took these to a local job shop to see what they wanted to kiss the tops and bottoms. 2-2.5 hours!! I'm not putting $200.00 into crappy metal, plus I'm pretty sure I can do it on my DP in about the same amount of time. On the + side, I did get a lead on an unadvertised machine tool repair shop that may be able to re-grind my bed. Sounds like one of these old timers who won't take his boots off, and will fix your kids tonka truck on the same invoice he builds your custom spaceship on. Sounds promising.
The other piece goes under the headstock and has an extension welded on the back for the motor mount.
The tops averaged out to about even, so I started with the rails.
Dirty milling attempt in progress. I haven't started in on the tops yet, maybe today. If it gives me too much grief, I'm going to the scrap yard to look for a big hunk of iron. At least I won't mind paying a few bills on a good piece of material.
Just as a safety note for those like me who will one day search for evidence that a drill press can be a GOOD substitute for a milling machine. My drill press has a special chuck (Jacobs 33-34c). It has a collar at the top of the taper, that threads onto the spindle and keeps it from coming off until you want it to.
I filled the body with epoxy granite, welded angle iron into the column, and filled it too. It has real column clamps on the column, and the quill, which is 10in long and supports the spindle with 4 tapered roller bearings, and the table is supported at the end by a heavy duty automotive screw jack. It still vibrates like cheap hotel quarter bed if I use cutter bigger than 3/16 or do more than kiss off more than about .02. It's an awesome drill press, and a life saver since I don't have a proper milling machine yet, but it's a sorry substitute for the real thing.
I would not feel safe at all trying anything like this with a standard drill chuck held only by the taper.
She told me to go fix my bed, so...
This post could also be filed in the forum category "Jokes no one in the history of machines have ever told before... Ever." LOL
Degreasing prep for paint removal in the wonderful flavor of orange! Much as I love Zep, that stuff is worse than the first time I inhaled a cigar at 15 years old! This stuff http://www.wmbarr.com/citristrip/default.aspx I kinda have to try hard not to taste. It takes just a little longer to work, but it stays wet for over 24 hours, and you can re-constitute it in place if you still have deeper layers to remove (hasn't happened yet). Best of all, that plastic beneath it is perfectly fine with gobs of it on top, where the refuse will sit and dry for easy disposal.
On to breaking down the rest of the cabinet while it soaks.
This post could also be filed in the forum category "Jokes no one in the history of machines have ever told before... Ever." LOL
Degreasing prep for paint removal in the wonderful flavor of orange! Much as I love Zep, that stuff is worse than the first time I inhaled a cigar at 15 years old! This stuff http://www.wmbarr.com/citristrip/default.aspx I kinda have to try hard not to taste. It takes just a little longer to work, but it stays wet for over 24 hours, and you can re-constitute it in place if you still have deeper layers to remove (hasn't happened yet). Best of all, that plastic beneath it is perfectly fine with gobs of it on top, where the refuse will sit and dry for easy disposal.
On to breaking down the rest of the cabinet while it soaks.
Done... Well almost done with this one small part.
Cabinet came apart easy, it's crinkling up right now. The small leg on the right weighs more than the bed. This is no cheap import stand, though on further inspection there are a few things that lead me to believe it is not a southbend.
Needs the BFH treatment.
Little tool holder looks like it may have been added by the OO.
Also took some of the work out of filling the voids, by knocking down the high spots.
Before
After
More.
This area was really bad before.
Good day today, very productive and therapeutic!
Cabinet came apart easy, it's crinkling up right now. The small leg on the right weighs more than the bed. This is no cheap import stand, though on further inspection there are a few things that lead me to believe it is not a southbend.
Needs the BFH treatment.
Little tool holder looks like it may have been added by the OO.
Also took some of the work out of filling the voids, by knocking down the high spots.
Before
After
More.
This area was really bad before.
Good day today, very productive and therapeutic!
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Taz, all I can say is WOW! The bed looks great! Is that the result of just using Citristrip and then washing down? Or did you need to wire brush it too? From your comment, did you have to degrease it before using Citristrip? Thanks...
Regards, RossG
radial1951
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Regards, RossG
radial1951
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Taz, all I can say is WOW! The bed looks great! Is that the result of just using Citristrip and then washing down? Or did you need to wire brush it too? From your comment, did you have to degrease it before using Citristrip? Thanks...
Regards, RossG
radial1951
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Thanks Ross! Yeah, just citristrip, then I used a bondo knife on the big areas, and a dish brush on the insides. It's just a matter of waiting enough time, and the paint/stripper all become one mass, it just sorta falls off. I've never tried this product without degreasing, I'm just in the habit of degreasing anything before applying a chemical treatment. Too many bottles of "X" wasted because it couldn't get through thick layer of grimey "Y". $0.13 of Zep purple cancer causer does the trick every time (sometimes the paint comes off in that first step too),