Need help with Ring Cam (avoid thread if you have a weak stomach)

I hear all of what you're saying. But again you have to listen to what they said. I wasn't there, didn't witness anything.

According to the dog's owner, the cat ran out of the yard and jumped on/attacked the pitbull.

Now if someone is inclined to believe that, I venture most people would say the dog was defending itself. The owner also claimed he tried to separate the dog from the cat or something. As I've said above it just could be what was told the police, in an effort to remove any culpability from the owner of the dog.

The cops in this town are worthless idiots to begin with. Oftentimes if no one or not more then one witness was present, the cop will just go with the story he's handed. Am I wrong?

(a final determination as to who's at fault, what's legal, what's not, depends entirely on the laws of the area. And the willingness of the prosecutor to do their job).

I think maybe I could say the dog is obviously in the category of "extra dangerous". A dog can bite a cat. But most of the time, I would think, the arm won't be crushed, broken clean apart in 2 places, and fractured again at the elbow.

I am not for torturing any animal, nor even causing one significant discomfort. But there may be the basis for a new law that says whenever an animal such as a pitbull is outdoors, it needs to have say a lightweight cage surrounding it's head. It doesn't need to be made of cast iron, simply some sort of plastic or composite material. And doesn't have to muzzle the dog either, just prevent it from getting it's teeth around anything.
 
and this is the sort of thing that really ticks me off. Note though I'm not saying the shooter was utterly justified. Don't know, wasn't there. But this stupid lady's comments towards the end of the video show how ignorant and unfeeling people can be when someone has the chutzpah to act in a (possibly) desperate situation:


"all he had to do was pick up his cat (while 2 dogs are attacking?), use pepper spray (which doesn't always work, ask a cop), or call animal control (which takes how long???)".
 
14 year old cats are not stupid. Most would avoid a large dog.

Most would avoid the person walking down the road.

The dog owner could have controlled their dog easily. It was on a leash, and a good yank likely would have caused the dog to stop.

Yelling at the cat would have made the cat run.

Do you have a local good talk radio station?

Stuff like this gets lots of folks interested.

Discussing on the radio for all in the area to hear, can get the chain of command in law enforcement to realize everyone is discussing their lack of doing their job.

Google pit bull killing family child in California, many "bully breed" dogs, properly raised are good animals, but those who have owners who allow them to do this are beyond help and are dangerous.

You state your pd is no good, this is the result, make noise.



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I hear that. About ten years ago, I inadvertently facilitated the shut down of an animal shelter. A cat of my went missing, I started posting around internet sites I suppose. A couple of people told me to go to the Helmetta Animal Shelter. Now this was miles away from where he was lost. But I said what the hay. I drove there and everything seemed normal, not that too much was going on that I could tell, but no Oogy. I started seeing postings on Craigslist about the Hell-metta shelter. I was on Facebook for a short time back then. I would frequent the sites where people posted photos of missing/found animals. People kept talking about Helmetta. Outbreaks of parvo, mother and kittens dying in a cage due to neglect. I said why is this still a thing??? I said someone needs to get the media involved. People did everything else, including protest outside the place. No one thought of it though. 2 or 3 days later it was on Cain on Your Side, a segment of channel 12 news (which I don't watch). And they did a short expose' on the place. Surrounding townships that utilized the shelter's services started to pull out. A few more days later the ASPCA raided and shut it down. I don't know what's going on with the building now.
 
I may take slight issue with you calling bully breeds "good animals". Clearly there are many pit bulls that don't pose a danger to even a cat, as they may have been raised with them. The issue is an animal is an animal. I spent a significant number of years as a vegetarian on ethical grounds, and am moving again in that direction. Certainly I have no bias against animals whatsoever. But animals are often unpredictable. OMG PEOPLE are often unpredictable. But have much duller claws and teeth. You can't always count on a "nice" animal to do the right thing. That's why these bully breeds need additional "attention" if you will. Any dog, I suppose, can maim or kill another animal, small or elderly human. But it just seems certain breeds and dogs of certain sizes are more prone to inflict lethal damage.
 
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