Need help with Ring Cam (avoid thread if you have a weak stomach)

Maybe I wasn't clear, the owner was walking the dog when it happened.

Thanks for that list, but the animal control officer was there. And may be part of the problem ...
 
If the dog was off-leash it doesn't matter if the owner was present.
 
$6 - 9K for a limb amputation on a cat is obscene. For that matter, so is $500 for x rays. It seems like the veterinary profession is taking their cue from the medical profession.
 
RJSakowski said:
$6 - 9K for a limb amputation on a cat is obscene. For that matter, so is $500 for x rays. It seems like the veterinary profession is taking their cue from the medical profession.
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Yeah I hear ya. Our Great Pyrenees, Thor, broke his leg at 6mo cost just over $10k. Then, right after he healed up, he was diagnosed with a congenital disorder in his shoulders, another $10K to fix that. Thankfully, we had good pet insurance that covered 70% of the cost, still a hit but manageable.
 
Eddyde said:
If the dog was off-leash it doesn't matter if the owner was present.
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Which remains to be determined

The story may be tailored to remove any culpability from the owner. Buki was 14, mostly deaf. I highly doubt she flew at a pit bull in the street. Much more likely is the dog was let loose. Or who knows. I still have to get the police report and body cam footage. And.hopefully ring cam video. If the neighbor with the ring cam doesn't comply, I may ask the police to get involved, send a detective to investigate. Maybe they'd be more agreeable then. But I'm jumping ahead

The crazy thing is, although the break was severe, she's dead on account of the sedation. There's really no other reasonable possibility. The vet declared she "succumbed to her injuries". But didn't die until she was back on the operating table??? I call BS. I have the report from the original vet which described her condition, and it was remarkably good, bright eyes, etc. There also was a small puncture on her stomach. But when I looked at her a few hours after the first visit, she was resting, but alert. I am not going to stand.for this. The splint shouldn't have come.off so easily. This isn't their first rodeo. If an animal is prone.to.losing a splint, it should have been secured. The fact that it came off (and so easily) is the reason she's dead.
 
RJSakowski said:
$6 - 9K for a limb amputation on a cat is obscene. For that matter, so is $500 for x rays. It seems like the veterinary profession is taking their cue from the medical profession.
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My sister was a vet tech and going to become a vet……until

She found out the cost to become a vet is higher than that of a surgeon in many cases as you need 12yrs of school vs 8.

Then there is the issue of needing to buy or start your own practice vs working out of a hospital with only an office associated.

In the end she went to the post office and wound up making nearly the same money in 10yrs as postmaster.

Fun fact, when you grow up knowing the vet and twist your ankle you can get it x-rayed for free and sutures removed also.

I think I spent as much time at the vet hospital as a kid as I did in school.
 
skogkatt007 said:
Which remains to be determined

The story may be tailored to remove any culpability from the owner. Buki was 14, mostly deaf. I highly doubt she flew at a pit bull in the street. Much more likely is the dog was let loose. Or who knows. I still have to get the police report and body cam footage. And.hopefully ring cam video. If the neighbor with the ring cam doesn't comply, I may ask the police to get involved, send a detective to investigate. Maybe they'd be more agreeable then. But I'm jumping ahead

The crazy thing is, although the break was severe, she's dead on account of the sedation. There's really no other reasonable possibility. The vet declared she "succumbed to her injuries". But didn't die until she was back on the operating table??? I call BS. I have the report from the original vet which described her condition, and it was remarkably good, bright eyes, etc. There also was a small puncture on her stomach. But when I looked at her a few hours after the first visit, she was resting, but alert. I am not going to stand.for this. The splint shouldn't have come.off so easily. This isn't their first rodeo. If an animal is prone.to.losing a splint, it should have been secured. The fact that it came off (and so easily) is the reason she's dead.
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Unfortunately a lot of things can happen , due to age, post trauma, vet may not be the best at surgery( here in bay area cal. the surgery( acls,hips, etc) is done by a board certified specialist with a better outcome.
Emergency is another story.
Wait for the police report and if possible go to small claims court to pay your vet bill. I wouldnt talk to the owner any more.
That's the best you can do.
I know because a similar incident happened to my wife and I walking our dog .Case was more clearcut with pitbull owner admitting guilt and that the dog was off leash, escaped through a hole in the fence and attacked us 25 yds from the house in the middle of the street. our dog had severe bit marks.
Police report had owner admitting guilt, SPCA said they would take owner to court but never did( 6 phone calls and 3 emails with photos of damage)
Owner refused to pay any of $1000 vet bill . Went to court and owner had to pay.
 
RaisedByWolves said:
My sister was a vet tech and going to become a vet……until

She found out the cost to become a vet is higher than that of a surgeon in many cases as you need 12yrs of school vs 8.

Then there is the issue of needing to buy or start your own practice vs working out of a hospital with only an office associated.

In the end she went to the post office and wound up making nearly the same money in 10yrs as postmaster.

Fun fact, when you grow up knowing the vet and twist your ankle you can get it x-rayed for free and sutures removed also.

I think I spent as much time at the vet hospital as a kid as I did in school.
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Last February, I had three x-rays of my wrist and two chest x-rays for a total billed of $141. All five X-rays and an EKG took less than ten minutes. This was at the University of Wisconsin hospital. X rays are digital now so no film cost. There is only depreciation of the machine and labor.

The problem is that it has become fashionable for pet owners to have pet medical insurance. With that system, the cost of health care for ones pets becomes indirect which frees the veterinary clinics to charge whatever the insurance companies will pay. For those who choose not to carry insurance, they are hit with the full impact. Unfortunately, we love our pets too much to deny them the care so we will pay it.

Years ago, we had a large animal vet that also cared for our dogs and cats. His typical fee was around $25, largely the farmer customers wouldn't pay more. Even a valuable asset like a cow wouldn't have more than a $100 bill because the farmer would just call the stock removal service. Granted, that was 35 years ago but the value of a 1990 dollar in 2024 is only $2.34.
 
insurance has always been the culprit. But more then anything it's the root of all evil. A doctor or vet deserves to be suitably compensated. But how does putting a cast on warrant a bill of 900$. And fall off a half an hour later! As I understand it most hospitals are non-profit entities. Then they have to factor in lawsuits (another evil in our time. Again someone who has been improperly cared for needs to be compensated. But these multi million dollar lawsuits are insane. It's just about some lawyer making money, and half the problem is the judge colluding with the lawyers).

If I had walked out of there paying 5 bills say, and the cast stayed on. Even if Buki died at some point (and why didn't this issue be addressed? All they did was take another set of x-rays and determine her stomach wasn't damaged), I wouldn't complain. Sometimes things happen. But cast falls off, doctor makes me aware of risk of another round of sedation (but says it's very low), and cat is dead 1/2 an hour later. Keep in mind the total I paid out that day was closer to 1800$. Something is terribly wrong.
 
If the owner lives in his house, and has a mortgage, he is insured.

Does not matter if on leash, the owner is responsible.

Dog may have went after cat in a want to smell it to nvestigate it as dogs do, but most cats do not like this so defended via cat like action, dog then reacted.

All above is normal action.


Now add owner at end of leash of dog, the above takes time, owner should have stopped said interaction.

That is when things go from accident to criminal.

Law enforcement should be called.

Do not let them blow it off, the dog WAS UNDER CONTROL OF OWNER AND OWNER ALLOWED THE DOG TO ATTACK!

He could face serious issues.

If he has a mortgage his insurance provider is not that hard to discover.

You can create a case directly without court, they are on the hook and will avoid court.

Law enforcement sometimes have more important things...do not et them use it, here locally a pit bull killed the family child!.


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