Carbide & HSS tooling...or is it??

[Suzuki4evr]

Hi guys.

I order most of my tooling on ebay and such. I know when you buy Carbide or HSS tooling on ebay,you can most lightly expect Chinesium of some sorts, but how will you know if you haw the real McCoy? I know there is no way of knowing before you have it in hand,but is there a way of testing besides using it and seeing how it is just NOT what it should be.

Thank you in advance.
Michael

 

[davidpbest]

Why don’t you just invest in one or two high quality name-brand insert toolholders from Iscar, Kennametal, SECO, or Sandvik and be done with it? If you don’t know how to identify quality tooling on eBay, you will surely buy some junk.

 

[Suzuki4evr]

No I do use Korloy brand carbide inserts,that is not the issue. I am talking about carbide endmills or slotdrills in particular. Here in SA the prices on that is absurd for one cutter. I don't know if you know but the South African Rand is basically worthless. For instance a 8mm 2 fluit slotdrill would cost about R800,that is about $56 US. I run a workshop out of my garage for a living and at that price it is way too expensive.

 

[Aukai]

I put in what I'm looking for on Ebay with "new" at the end, and only buy name brand units. You can also put in reconditioned, but these are a few thou short of the original cutter diameter.

 

[Suzuki4evr]

The products I get from ebay is new,but you just don't know if it is quality carbide or HSS. Another example is with center drills. It says HSS,but just a bit too much pressure or fast enough retraction and it crumbles like a biscuit. If I could buy on ebay from the US, I would have given it a go,but they kill me with the shipping.

 

[Lo-Fi]

The Chinese haven't figured out how to make total junk carbide yet. Certainly not the same grade of garbage as the "HSS" you commonly see from the usual scumbags. Chinese carbide isn't usually bad, but the grinding... well that's a different matter. Here in the UK I've found Rennie and APT, both of which supply decent carbide tools at reasonable prices. Maybe you can find something similar down there?

 

[Aukai]

See if you can get in touch with these guys, the have contact information in South Africa for the Iscar-ETM line.

https://www.iscar.com/products.aspx/countryid/1/productid/12290

https://www.iscar.com/newarticles.aspx/countryid/1/newarticleid/202

 

[Canus]

I have seen quite a few Ebay listings that state Carbide in the title but show the material as HSS in the item description. Here is a link to an example. https://www.ebay.com/itm/402853022327?hash=item5dcbe94a77:g:EoIAAOSw9TtgyFjT

 

[Suzuki4evr]

I have seen quite a few Ebay listings that state Carbide in the title but show the material as HSS in the item description. Here is a link to an example. https://www.ebay.com/itm/402853022327?hash=item5dcbe94a77:g:EoIAAOSw9TtgyFjT

Yes I have noticed that too and even then, is it quality HSS????

 

[sdelivery]

I am sorry if this comes off badly.
1. The item description is what you will receive " high speed steel tian coating" not carbide. The pictured is just a picture.
The discrepancy is the description is not a mistake, people get in such a rush that they will see the description and price and just graze over the description, "it's only 13.00" Most won't go through the return process for 13.00
and they sure aren't going to send 8 carbide end mills out because they made a mistake.
After they argue the item description is what you received.
Buyer beware.
Buy from inside of America from brick and stone business. this COUNTRY is dependent upon it.
2. What the Hell did you think you were going to get for 15 bucks?
I just bought two 3/8 4 flute double end endmills, they are HSS.
They were 31.00 each.