Atlas Horizontal mill

Vince, you are right about arranging a separate thread... I'm just starting to get a feel now for whether there would be such a market. I'm thinking like Rob that it might be able to make a single "master casting" that could be finished (by me or by the end user) to the needed length. As a matter of fact, it appears from what I can transpose between your picture (Vince) and mine, it would appear that mine is somewhat different from both of yours, with a length close to the shorter, but somewhere between it and the longer one. Of course dealing with a photo on the screen of a tablet and the actual measurement here required me to get creative with my measurement techniques! :confused:

Tomorrow I'll have the opportunity to talk to my boss, the Department Chairman/Dean about the schedule for foundry classes and what materials will be available. I may be whistling in the dark anyway, but if I don't ask, I won't know! :anon: Wish me luck! :encourage:

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If you made it in 2 pieces, it would be a pretty simple project. A tubular part that spaces out from the face of the table, and the ramp part out of plate. Slots and tabs to keep the relationships right.

I have one already, or I'd be making drawings.....
 
Froggy, I went back to your first pic and it appears that I'm seeing something behind the table of the mill , and I can now see the small vise.
Thanks for clearing that up!!

I would be very interested in your efforts to cast that piece and if it wasn't too pricey I'd love to get me one.
And it seems like you got the distances covered too!
 
I think Rob is correct -- they both appear to be the same casting. The MFC version is just milled down shorter. And the back of the cam section is ground out a bit to clear the locking knob on the front of the table.
 
I just checked at school and they don't do cast iron, only soft brass and aluminum. I did find a possible source of getting a casting made however, so I'm still on the hunt. It looks like maybe I'll have to make some sort of model based on my MFC version, then stretch out the bolster where it fits against the front face of the table and make one sort of "blank" version, then make sure it will be adaptable to both versions of the kick out lever. Do you (Vince) think it would work OK with the thinned down cam section to use it on the earlier (pre-MFC) models, or should my proposed "blank" have the thicker cam and have to be milled for the MFC application? :confused 3:

Keep in mind folks, that I really have no dog in this fight since I have a perfectly good kick out cam on my MFC... I'm just seeing what seems to be a need and sort of spitballing some ideas to see what I might be able to do to "pay it forward" for some of the help I've been getting here. If it really isn't something that is needed, I've got lots of other stuff that needs doing on my MFC and on my lathe to bring them up to the level I need so I can easily find other projects if this one isn't really necessary. ;)

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Froggie,

First thing that you should do if you decide to pursue this is to call Clausing and see whether or not you can get copies of the factory drawings. That'll definitively answer the question of whether or not the kickout for the C models can be made from the one for the B and earlier.
 
Clausing sent me a tiff file of the drawing for the kick out. Unable to upload tiff files but I sent a copy to Spiral-Chips and he cleaned it up and sent me a cleaned copy as a jpg.

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34_40 said:
Froggy, I went back to your first pic and it appears that I'm seeing something behind the table of the mill , and I can now see the small vise.
Thanks for clearing that up!!

I would be very interested in your efforts to cast that piece and if it wasn't too pricey I'd love to get me one.
And it seems like you got the distances covered too!
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What you are probably seeing is the disk of a combination sander on a table behind the mill and various other junk back there. Unfortunately, it is easy to get distracted by the clutter in my basement/shop... there is certainly plenty of clutter there! You've piqued my interest in a dividing head or something similar though... they can be very useful with a horizontal mill. As I said in previous post, I have been cogitating on how I could get a leg up on building such a unit.

As for the price of that kick out cam... if I can get a good casting made and provide it "raw" but ready to use with minimal D-I-Y machining and fitting, would you be interested in it, or would it take a finished, ready-to-install part to attract your interest? Note previous post about why I am embarking on this project.

Regards,
Froggie
 
Thank you very much, Rob. I continue to be blown away by the knowledge on this forum and the generosity of its members to share. :) I'll take this drawing to the college machine shop the first of next week and see whether the head instructor there would like to let one of his students program it into the 5-axis CNC machine. Meanwhile, I'll continue to chase down the casting information as well. BTW, the instructor in question owns one of the Atlas Horizontals, one of the Shapers, and a couple of years ago I even helped him acquire the little 6" lathe to match , so he has a vested interest in parts for this machine! :D

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This is what the kick out that Rudy Kouhoupt made for his Atlas looked like. No castings!


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