Tools For Lathe And Mill From Shars And Enco

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GarageWrench said:
The only promo code Enco has at there site is 15% off till Nov 30th. Im not seeing anything on 25% off or any shipping discounts at there web site.
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They don't advertise the 25% specials on their site, they are only sent directly to customers.
 
I have bought lots of stuff for them, the only thing that was total junk was a lathe chuck mount plate..
 
Just finished an order to Enco and noticed that, at least for some of the items I looked at, the price on the "master catalog" pages were less than the actual price when the item was selected. As an example, the "master catalog" price for item 404-1627 was $114.61 but when it is selected the price is $123.37. Just something else to watch for when comparing prices.
 
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Just finished an order to Enco and noticed that, at least for some of the items I looked at, the price on the "master catalog" pages were less than the actual price when the item was selected.
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I noticed that also, and 2 scenerios came to mind. #1, being that it is the end of the year, and the master catalog is a PDF of the year old 2015 catalog, the higher prices at checkout might be what has been put in the computer in preparation for their 2016 catalog. I hope #1 is the case, because #2 would stop me from ever using Enco again-- #2, lets face it in this age of technology, there computers could easily be programed so that with a push of a button, prices would increase, lets say 10%. Then when they put out a code for 25% off, they press that button and we are actually only getting 15% off. Sound like I'm a conspiracy theorist? I'm really not, just admitting what popped into my head. Happy Machining, JR49
 
JR49 said:
I noticed that also, and 2 scenerios came to mind. #1, being that it is the end of the year, and the master catalog is a PDF of the year old 2015 catalog, the higher prices at checkout might be what has been put in the computer in preparation for their 2016 catalog. I hope #1 is the case, because #2 would stop me from ever using Enco again-- #2, lets face it in this age of technology, there computers could easily be programed so that with a push of a button, prices would increase, lets say 10%. Then when they put out a code for 25% off, they press that button and we are actually only getting 15% off. Sound like I'm a conspiracy theorist? I'm really not, just admitting what popped into my head.
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I think what you will find is that it's kind of like #1. They set the prices in the catalog, based on current price at the time the catalog was made, so most likely late 2014. The price also fluctuates up and down over the year, based on supply and demand. If no ones buying a product, the price goes down to try and entice buyers. If it's flying off the shelf, the price will be right at the msrp.

Amazon, has automated sofware that alters prices automatically. I've purchased end-mills for 10% of the msrp, and as soon as my order completes it go back to full price. Then 2 months later its down to 85%, 6 months its at 50%. Basically, it all comes down to the sales model, they will take a bath on one order, as long as they are making a profit overall.
 
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That difference between the two prices has always been. No conspiracy there. Just increasing prices throughout the year.
Dave
 
Interesting stuff. I've been making a list without putting anything in my basket because this is my first order and I knew it was going to take me a few days to finish. Yesterday I noticed several of my items were also in their Hot Deals Catalog with lower prices so I made a note of those on my list as well. Not sure what I think of their html and pdf pages but it sure sounds like you need to be on your toes when it comes to their pricing.

But I just received an email from Enco for 25% Off and Free Shipping so they must know I've been on their site for hours at a time, ha. Regardless I have to place an order today... BUT I could really use some quick help...

Although I have a list, there are still tools missing for my PM1236 lathe. I have a complete quick change tool post set but no tooling. I still need tools to cut and thread but not sure what else. Would also prefer to buy a set but if anyone has any suggestions or what other types of tools/cutters I could use please let me know.
 
Almost ordered something I didn't need. My quick change tool post set includes a holder for knurling and includes diamond pattern knurls. A knurling tool was on my Enco list. That would have been a waste of $74... whew!

The set is a wedge type Phase II 251-222 which comes with 5 holders...
Turning and Facing Holder (1/4" 5/8" Toolbit Size)
Boring, Turning and Facing Holder (1/2" Shank) (1/4" 5/8" Toolbit Size)
Boring Bar Holder (3/4" Bar Size with Bushing) (1" w/o Bushing)
Universal Parting Blade (11/16" Blade Height)
Knurling, Turning and Facing Holders (1/4" 5/8" Toolbit Size)

I'm going to try and figure out what I might want to order 'now' for these holders. Shouldn't need anything for the boring bar holder since I already ordered a boring bar kit for the mill. And I don't need anything else for the Knurling holder since the diamond pattern knurls were what I wanted to begin with. But I don't understand why I have a Boring, Turning and Facing holder if I have those separately? And I need to figure out what the Parting Blade holder is for.

Time for more reading.
 
Enco doesn't miss represent their prices in the catalog. The price on line is the current price based on cost. I've seen times when the catalog price was higher than the current price also. I've been buying from them since 2004 and have never been dissatisfied or screwed. I am very grateful to receive their discount codes, that has allowed me to afford tools that i would not have been able to afford otherwise. I think they are an outstanding company. Just my opinion.

I have purchased tools from Shars also. They have been great so far. The Diamond and CBN wheels are very reasonable and work great. I do agree their web site stores shipping leaves much to be desired though. I wish they would ship priority USPS also. I find that most of the time the price on Ebay store is lower and is usually USPS priority so that's where i check before ordering.
 
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