To Key or Not to Key that is the question.

[Ultradog MN]

By the way, all this talk about chucking, changing bits, etc reminded me that I have this guy in a drawer here. It fits into my MT 3 tailstock. I should get a couple more chucks for it.
Bought it at an auction a couple of years ago. I never remember to use it. It was made in Germany so should be a decent tool.
Edit:
This has been an interesting thread but I should get off of it before I start to upchuck.

 

[Firstram]

By the way, all this talk about chucking, changing bits, etc reminded me that I have this guy in a drawer here. It fits into my MT 3 tailstock. I should get a couple more chucks for it.
Bought it at an auction a couple of years ago. I never remember to use it. It was made in Germany so should be a decent tool.

That would be sweet loaded with the commonly used stuff!

 

[FOMOGO]

Some years back I got a great deal on a new Llambrich 1/2" precision chuck (.001 runout). It uses a T-handle hex wrench to tighten, and seems to be the best of both worlds. Have never had it slip, and easier than a keyed chuck to tighten/loosen. It is on an R8 arbor so stays with the BP. Would have more of that style, but very pricey. My Porter Cable, and Makita battery drills seem to work well. Drill press and lathe run keyed chucks. Mike

 

[ltlvt]

Seems I have hit the motherload on feedback on this one. Feedback is one of the greatest things about this forum. I now realize I am not alone when it comes to drill chucks. Seems we all can agree there are problems with Keyless chucks. I was beginning to think I just had bad ones or was too weak to tighten them. Sometimes "New and improved does not always mean better" Thanks to all who responded and thanks to the forum for hosting us.

 

[mmcmdl]

eems I have hit the motherload on feedback on this one. Feedback is one of the greatest things about this forum. I now realize I am not alone when it comes to drill chucks. Seems we all can agree there are problems with Keyless chucks. I was beginning to think I just had bad ones or was too weak to tighten them. Sometimes "New and improved does not always mean better" Thanks to all who responded and thanks to the forum for hosting us.

I for one would never tell someone not to spend money for anything . I love spending other people's money !

Ka-ching

 

[projectnut]

Just like anything else.

I’ve had good luck with even cheap (something “Goose” brand) and spotty performance with known good brands.

Albrecht, Rhom and one other brand I disremember at the moment have all usually performed well for me.

As far as accuracy goes, that is the purpose of a keyless chuck, with speed/ease of use second.

The BB super chuck runs a close second, but they’re designed to provide more clamping force for a given amount of grunt on the proper sized key.


I just got this lil guy to replace the “accurate” little keyed chuck for my sensitive drill arbor.

Had one years back and I could reliable run an 0-80 tap with it where as the keyed one it’s replacing would sometimes give me fits with a 4-40.

I think the ones you're referring to are called "Golden Goose". They were originally a medium level chuck made in Taiwan. The company made both keyed and keyless chucks. While their name is "Golden Goose" they're logo is a pelican.

I purchased several of their keyed chucks back in the 1980's. They're good quality and I still use them today. Around the year 2000 factories in mainland China started copying the keyed models. They looked similar to the originals but were far inferior in quality. The originals from Tiawan had the name and model number engraved into the barrel. The later counterfeits have it laser printed rather than engraved.

The original company stopped making keyed chucks around 2005 due to the number of complaints from what customers thought were their products. In fact, 95+% of the complaints and returns were actually about the mainland knockoffs. The original company still make the keyless models, but mainland knockoffs are now encroaching in on that market.

 

[coolidge]

Llambrich keyless for me, they come with a wrench and a flat for additional tightening. Those government mandated spring loaded chuck keys

 

[RaisedByWolves]

Llambrich keyless for me, they come with a wrench and a flat for additional tightening. Those government mandated spring loaded chuck keys

That’s the one!

 

[SouthernChap]

Break that Rohm down and clean it out, it may have been improperly lubed!

I will.

I mean, I really ought to, since it's up on eBay for sale.