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I have had two of these machines for a while now and love the capabilities these have for such a compact machine.
The one thing I don't like is lubricating them. There is no provision to oil the ways on these or some other areas like the Tailstock or the apron gear shafts, so you're left with some impractical options.
I'm going to fix that on my machines and show you a simple (?) way to go about retrofitting your own machine if you would like to follow along. The methods I employ are certainly not the only methods to get this done, but for me with my skillset its simple enough.
I'm going to start with the saddle way lubrication as its my current project and work my way up.
I looked all over for small Gits type oil cups and found these on E bay. They have a 6mm-1 thread and are kinda tall at 3/4", so the first order of business is to shorten them. This is not expressly necessary, but as you'll see it will allow more positive oiling when the next few steps are taken to get the oil where it needs to go.
Here's the oiler as shipped.
And the location I intend to put it.
To start off with I put the oiler body in the 4 jaw chuck and indicated them. Getting them within a couple thousands is fine as you're basically just shortening them and recutting the cap retainer band groove.
With that done I turned .225 off the end of the oiler:
Then I turned down one peak of the hex shaped body for clearance for the new retaining band groove.
Then I simply recut the retaining band groove.
Perfect!
I then assembled it all back together. Better than the day it was made and .225 shorter than it was.
With that done I set the saddle in the B-port and after taking careful measurements found a location near the center of the rear way that would not intersect with a nearby gib attachment screw hole, and drilled it for a 6mm-1 thread for the oil cup.
The Allen key denotes the depth of the existing screw hole I’m trying to avoid and the location of that hole….tight!
I had less than 5/16” of depth in this hole so again I shortened a tap and tapped the hole.
With the hole tapped I test fit the oil cup, and while really close to the top of the ways, it fit without any interference.
Then I had to cross drill an oil gallery to the center of the rear saddle way. I set the saddle up on a random angle that would let me get deep enough to reach the center of the back way and drilled it to the proper depth. The angle does not matter for this step so I just fudged it.
Checking depth and setting the quill stop.
Once I had that set up I had to spot face the bottom of the hole as it was angled from the drill bit tip. I went in with an 1/8” 3 flute endmill to make the spot face.
I was able to use the camera on my phone to inspect the operation as I worked, which was great as I didn’t have to move the machine it break setup to check progress.
I repeated the process with a center drill.
I then drilled it to the depth I had set with a .116 #32 drill. After this I set up and located the position for the 2nd half of the oil gallery, and drilled through from the face of the way down to the first hole using the same sized drill..
I drilled the oil gallery hole nearly perfectly at the end of the cross hole, very happy with that. If you look closely you can just make out the crescent where the cross hole and the 2nd hole intersect.
Then I set the saddle up on the mill and using an 1/8” ball mill made the oil groove.
With that done my attention turned to the oiling of the front V way on the saddle. This way gets oil through a slit in the saddle centered on the inverted V way, and while this works OK, I figured while I was here I would give the oil a lil help. You can see in this pic how far back the slit is and how tight the walls of the clearance channel in the saddle are to the cross slide lead screw. This groove will allow gravity to carry the oil to the slit and onto the way quicker.
The cross slide screw comes in from the left here and you can see the slit marked by the red arrow. The slit is partially hidden from above and there is no direct way to get oil in there.
I angled the saddle slightly in the mill and using the same ball mill made a sloped oil groove leading to the oil slit.
Next Ill add oil grooves to the V ways.
The one thing I don't like is lubricating them. There is no provision to oil the ways on these or some other areas like the Tailstock or the apron gear shafts, so you're left with some impractical options.
I'm going to fix that on my machines and show you a simple (?) way to go about retrofitting your own machine if you would like to follow along. The methods I employ are certainly not the only methods to get this done, but for me with my skillset its simple enough.
I'm going to start with the saddle way lubrication as its my current project and work my way up.
I looked all over for small Gits type oil cups and found these on E bay. They have a 6mm-1 thread and are kinda tall at 3/4", so the first order of business is to shorten them. This is not expressly necessary, but as you'll see it will allow more positive oiling when the next few steps are taken to get the oil where it needs to go.
Here's the oiler as shipped.
And the location I intend to put it.
To start off with I put the oiler body in the 4 jaw chuck and indicated them. Getting them within a couple thousands is fine as you're basically just shortening them and recutting the cap retainer band groove.
With that done I turned .225 off the end of the oiler:
Then I turned down one peak of the hex shaped body for clearance for the new retaining band groove.
Then I simply recut the retaining band groove.
Perfect!
I then assembled it all back together. Better than the day it was made and .225 shorter than it was.
With that done I set the saddle in the B-port and after taking careful measurements found a location near the center of the rear way that would not intersect with a nearby gib attachment screw hole, and drilled it for a 6mm-1 thread for the oil cup.
The Allen key denotes the depth of the existing screw hole I’m trying to avoid and the location of that hole….tight!
I had less than 5/16” of depth in this hole so again I shortened a tap and tapped the hole.
With the hole tapped I test fit the oil cup, and while really close to the top of the ways, it fit without any interference.
Then I had to cross drill an oil gallery to the center of the rear saddle way. I set the saddle up on a random angle that would let me get deep enough to reach the center of the back way and drilled it to the proper depth. The angle does not matter for this step so I just fudged it.
Checking depth and setting the quill stop.
Once I had that set up I had to spot face the bottom of the hole as it was angled from the drill bit tip. I went in with an 1/8” 3 flute endmill to make the spot face.
I was able to use the camera on my phone to inspect the operation as I worked, which was great as I didn’t have to move the machine it break setup to check progress.
I repeated the process with a center drill.
I then drilled it to the depth I had set with a .116 #32 drill. After this I set up and located the position for the 2nd half of the oil gallery, and drilled through from the face of the way down to the first hole using the same sized drill..
I drilled the oil gallery hole nearly perfectly at the end of the cross hole, very happy with that. If you look closely you can just make out the crescent where the cross hole and the 2nd hole intersect.
Then I set the saddle up on the mill and using an 1/8” ball mill made the oil groove.
With that done my attention turned to the oiling of the front V way on the saddle. This way gets oil through a slit in the saddle centered on the inverted V way, and while this works OK, I figured while I was here I would give the oil a lil help. You can see in this pic how far back the slit is and how tight the walls of the clearance channel in the saddle are to the cross slide lead screw. This groove will allow gravity to carry the oil to the slit and onto the way quicker.
The cross slide screw comes in from the left here and you can see the slit marked by the red arrow. The slit is partially hidden from above and there is no direct way to get oil in there.
I angled the saddle slightly in the mill and using the same ball mill made a sloped oil groove leading to the oil slit.
Next Ill add oil grooves to the V ways.
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