Hex Collet for a mill?

Oh, I didn't realize the intent was to use hex shank drills. No, don't do that. Hex shank, not concentric enough. Your holes will always run large. Kind of like bent Harbor Freight drill bits. No, really, it's not a good idea. Once I got rid of HF drills and bought real quality bits, (one at a time) I could hit very close to true hole size.
Not if I use undersized drill bits and then ream the holes if necessary. Either way, the choice is use the mill with hex shanks or use the drill press. Option 1 is still better than option 2.

If I really need a true hole, I use a reamer. Short reamers don't present the issue drill bits do.
 
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It's not as bad as you think. What you say is true of R-8 collets, because they have very limited grip ranges. But ER collets have a grip range of about 1mm (or 1/32"). So, for instance, with an an ER40 collet chuck, you can cover everything from 1/8" to 1" with a 29 collet set:
That's true, sort of. The issue is my ER40 chuck is almost impossible to load with a new collet when the chuck is mounted in the mill. Most collet chucks I have seen allow the collet to be snapped into the closure nut before inserting into the chuck body. This one doesn't, and the seating depth is so shallow I find it all but impossible - or sometimes actually impossible - to load a collet without taking the chuck out of the mill and holding it upside down. Then it's easy.
 
I have the same Z problem and my best solution is the same set of R8 collets as RJSakowski. All my drill bits are screw length instead of the usual jobber length. With that set of collets and drill bits I’ve not been stumped yet. Using my drill chuck is not really an option as I don’t want to lose registration when raising and lowering the mill head.

Personally I’ve never run into hex shank drill bits that are as good as my regular drill bits, but I can’t say I was looking as I don’t even think about using them for more than wood etc.
 
Hmmmm ... perhaps it would help us understand your plight if you could post a picture or two. I have an ER32-R8 collet chuck, and there's no problem changing collets or snapping them into the nut. So I just don't understand how your collet chuck could be giving you that kind of problems. The ER40 -R8 collet chuck I found on Amazon doesn't look like it has that problem, either:

PS - I do see where an ER collet chuck would "eat" about 1 1/2" of Z space. Lots less than a drill chuck, but more than a correctly sized R8.
 
I have the same Z problem and my best solution is the same set of R8 collets as RJSakowski. All my drill bits are screw length instead of the usual jobber length.
Believe me, I hear you. Saying "Money is tight", is an extreme understatement, however. I have been out of work for over two years, and my new company is not yet bringing in any revenue. I have to make do with good enough and cut every corner that doesn't significantly impact work quality in any important area. A large set of quality R8 collets is pretty much out of the question. Most of my work does not require more than 0.005" concentricity, if that. When it does, I take extra care, or else bite the bullet and buy a more precise solution.

I am aware of the best solution, but I simply cannot afford it. I do have some stubby drills, as well as some 6" and 12". I also have some custom made drills in lengths that match my tap wrench for tapping. It allows me to drill and tap without moving the drill table, which not only ruins the registration, it is also a pain in the patootie. Obviously, tapping otherations on this mill are not practical.
With that set of collets and drill bits I’ve not been stumped yet. Using my drill chuck is not really an option as I don’t want to lose registration when raising and lowering the mill head.
Process organization can make a big difference. Whenever possible, I complete all milling operations for a particular target orientation first, and then do the drilling before moving the piece or the fixture setup.
Personally I’ve never run into hex shank drill bits that are as good as my regular drill bits, but I can’t say I was looking as I don’t even think about using them for more than wood etc.
I've done some pretty accurate woodwork, actually, although nothing like 0.0001", of course. On the other hand, many of my projects don't require even woodworking accuracy. Indeed, I just milled a piece for my lathe where I didn't even measure the piece. I put it in the vice, leveled it by eye, and cut off about 1/8" without even touching off on the piece. Precision was not required, so I didn't bother to take the time. By the same token, I am working on a press fit bearing later today or tomorrow. Obviously, that will need to be within a few tenths. I will be taking my time and doing my best to make up for the limitations of my little lathe. Needless to say, I won't be relying on a drill bit at all for the sizing, let alone a cheap hex shank bit.

Let me give a common example. In a situation, very frequently encountered, where I will be boring a large hole either on the lathe or the mill, I will typically start with a center drill, then move to small drill bits in ever increasing diameter. The hole size of these intermediate operations is completely flexible. If the drill bores 5 or 6 thousandths oversize, who cares? Even if it is off-center a bit, the boring bar or boring head will take care of it. Being able to change those bits quickly and easily is paramount, however.

I am going to give it a try. If it turns out to be too much of a time suck, or produces too poor quality output, I will move to a more expensive solution.
 
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Hmmmm ... perhaps it would help us understand your plight if you could post a picture or two.
I'm not sure how I would display the issue in a picture. It just does not snap into place. The collet slides easily along an axis perpendicular to the axis of rotation. Keeping the bit vertical enough to allow the nut to start without cross threading is extremely difficult and tedious. What I have to do is take the collet with the tool inserted, plce it up in the chuck, tap it in place with a brass hammer, and then put the nut in place and tighten it. The odds the tool or the collet will fall out of the chuck while I am trying to get the nut threaded are high, in which case I have to start all over again. Honestly, it is usually easier to simply remove the chuck entirely, turn it upside down, seat the collet with the tool, and then put the entire assembly back in the mill. This was also a bigger pain initially, because the drawbar was very tight, but then I cleaned upthe threads on the drawbar with a quality die and cleaned up the threads on the collet chuck (and all my R-8 tools) with a quality tap, and now the drawbar is smooth as silk. Changing out tools is no longer a struggle with a pair of wrenches.
I have an ER32-R8 collet chuck, and there's no problem changing collets or snapping them into the nut. So I just don't understand how your collet chuck could be giving you that kind of problems. The ER40 -R8 collet chuck I found on Amazon doesn't look like it has that problem, either:
Well, mine is not yours. The collets don't snap fit.

PS - I do see where an ER collet chuck would "eat" about 1 1/2" of Z space. Lots less than a drill chuck, but more than a correctly sized R8.
Indubitably.
 
Have you tried snapping the collet into the nut first? That's what you are supposed to do, afterward, (with a tool in place) they will not snap.
 
ER collet info
With all ER collet chucks, the collet must be snapped into the nut before placing it into the chuck. There is an eccentric ring inside the nut that engages the groove in the collet. That is what makes them self-ejecting. Tilt the collet again to remove it from the nut.

ER collets explained


From Practical Machinist
Rule one for ER collets is to correctly insert the collet into the nut and then attach it to the spindle. The nut has a feature that extracts the collet from the spindle so it loosens up and lets you change bits. If you put the collet in the spindle and then attach the nut, you ruin the nut and may cause other problems.
 
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