Agreed but I have been watching the bench model Sanford's on Ebay for a long time now and when they do pop-up they sometimes go for $1500 to $2K on Ebay. I could see this guy holding on his price because of the vise and wheel guard if he knows what he's got. Parts for these are ridiculous, more expensive than Atlas shaper parts. The wheel guard is never seen sold by itself. I wish I could find one instead of making mine.