303 brass and 7.62x54 nagant brass

I purchase the steel cased Military rounds and pull the bullets, replacing them with regular hunting bullets using the Russian Military powder that came in them. If you are inventive enough, you can form 7.62X54 Rimless cases from the 6.5X55 which has the same head diameter as the 7.62 Russian. But this makes your gun a single shot.
 
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If you want some real fun try holding groups under 5" using your favorite surplus rifle and 60+year old mil surplus ammo. Had a nice 8mm Mauser using Turkish ammo

Any hang fire? In my cabinet is a very battered up Okinawa pick up, Arisaka type 99 with original ammo bag. The last time we fired it some ten years back, it was a case of pull the trigger wait, wait, wait, bang didn't try and fire that ammo any more.
 
I purchase the steel cased Military rounds and pull the bullets, replacing them with regular hunting bullets using the Russian Military powder that came in them. If you are inventive enough, you can form 7.62X54 Rimless cases from the 6.5X55 which has the same head diameter as the 7.62 Russian. But this makes your gun a single shot.

Could you explain more of what you mean here? Are the dimensions close enough to chamber but not enough rim to extract? Some more details would be appreciated.


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7.62X54 without the R. I have always been an Outlaw Reloader who reinvents whenever it can be done safely. John Browning made the 45 ACP from the 1895 Mauser 6.5X55 which measures 0.476 to 0.479 at the head of the case, the 45 ACP measures 0.476 inch. The 7.62X54R is 0.479 inch at the head, the same as the 6.5X55. If you decide to form rimless 7.62X54 cases from 6.5X55 brass, you may need to hold the measurement from the face of the case to the junction of the shoulder and neck to possibly 2mm or about 0.08 inch longer and carefully close the bolt on a "crush fit" to make the case headspace properly. Since the extractor does not normally grab the rimless case ( But one of my Moisin Nagants extractor does), then shooting these rimless cartridges is usually a single shot/one at a time proposition. But it is a heck of a lot of fun to do it, "just because I can." On pulling bullets from the steel cases, I usually need to neck size or partial size the case so that my 155 grain spitzers are firmly gripped by the necks of the cases. And sometimes no matter what you do, the necks will split while seating the bullets into those steel case necks. I have never lost a single case though because when a neck splits, that case gets trimmed in a 45 Colt Trim Die to the length of a 454 Casull. And while we are on the 454 Casull/45 Colt, it is also possible to make rimless cases from the 6.5X55 for them too, in a pinch, but each case headspaces wherever its forward edge seats at its deepest point which may be deeper/longer than an ordinary 454 Casull/45 Colt cartridge. Just be carefull and watch what you are doing.
 
7.62X54 without the R. I have always been an Outlaw Reloader who reinvents whenever it can be done safely. John Browning made the 45 ACP from the 1895 Mauser 6.5X55 which measures 0.476 to 0.479 at the head of the case, the 45 ACP measures 0.476 inch. The 7.62X54R is 0.479 inch at the head, the same as the 6.5X55. If you decide to form rimless 7.62X54 cases from 6.5X55 brass, you may need to hold the measurement from the face of the case to the junction of the shoulder and neck to possibly 2mm or about 0.08 inch longer and carefully close the bolt on a "crush fit" to make the case headspace properly. Since the extractor does not normally grab the rimless case ( But one of my Moisin Nagants extractor does), then shooting these rimless cartridges is usually a single shot/one at a time proposition. But it is a heck of a lot of fun to do it, "just because I can." On pulling bullets from the steel cases, I usually need to neck size or partial size the case so that my 155 grain spitzers are firmly gripped by the necks of the cases. And sometimes no matter what you do, the necks will split while seating the bullets into those steel case necks. I have never lost a single case though because when a neck splits, that case gets trimmed in a 45 Colt Trim Die to the length of a 454 Casull. And while we are on the 454 Casull/45 Colt, it is also possible to make rimless cases from the 6.5X55 for them too, in a pinch, but each case headspaces wherever its forward edge seats at its deepest point which may be deeper/longer than an ordinary 454 Casull/45 Colt cartridge. Just be carefull and watch what you are doing.
The 303 British can be formed directly from 30/40 Krag by trimming to length, sizing, then trimming again. Here are the base and the rim dimensions of all the the similar cases: 303 Brit. Base .460, Rim .540 , 30/40 Krag Base .457, Rim .545, 9.3X74R Base .465 Rim 524, 444 marlin Base .470, Rim .514. As you can see, you could probably make a 7.62X54R from a 444 Marlin, but i don't think so. It would be safer to make it from the 7X57R instead. I think the 444 Marlin would stand up to swageing down to the size of the 303 British if you want to try it. I would.
 
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