1943 Monarch 10EE S/N 17646-Retrofit and Repair

[Ulma Doctor]

Thank you very much guys for your support and kind words.
i really appreciate it!!!
thank you all!

 

[Doubleeboy]

Wow Nice Score!
It might be one of the early ones with a hydraulic drive? lots of info here: http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/page2.html

Its a motor generator machine, The Sundstrom machines that were fluid drive look dramatically different and were not built as late at 1943, there span was very short maybe just a couple years. Got to love the looks of those round dial machines. Just in case you haven't gotten this far yet a MG machine has a AC motor driving a generator which then drives the DC motor. Its the DC motor and its tremendous touque that makes these machines so marvelous. Take out the DC drive and you likely will be left with a sad rememberance of what once was. Ratheon in Cali would only buy MG machines, said they were the best for maintenance, as of early 2000s they still had a boatload of em. Lot of MG enthusiasts on the PM board, Russ is a wealth of knowledge on em, he has had more than one.

 

[Karl_T]

I have an almost identical machine.

That jack shaft arrangement does not look original to me. My machine had a 1:1 drive for high gear and then a 6:1 reduction for back gear. Your back gear looks about the same as mine.

I kept the back gear and mounted it to a 5hp 3 phase motor and VFD. the lathe has run this way for nearly 20 years now without any trouble at all. BTW, VFDs were EXPENSIVE back then.

Once you are done, you won't be using the other lathes for any job that fits in the 10EE. The machine is Soooo much nicer its just plain painful to use anything else.

 

[4GSR]

How about another film strip with the brush access covers open? And push it outside the door when the trick o treaters come by and turn it on. That arching would light up the neighborhood. Bad to look at, too!

Nice find Mike!

 

[Ulma Doctor]

That is quite a motor. Congratulations Mike. !

Thank you Jim,
i agree, it's one heck of a creation!

Wow, congrats, Mike! You're living the dream but this makes it what, 9 lathes? You have the disease really bad!!
Can't wait to see your patient up and running.

Thank you Mikey,
yes sir, i got the itch real bad.
i have come to the conclusion that i'm going to be selling off some equipment soon!
i'll be sure to keep updates as they happen!

Wow Nice Score!
It might be one of the early ones with a hydraulic drive? lots of info here: http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/page2.html

thank you very much Eddye,
i believe the lathe originally had the DC drive and was swapped out later for the universal motor.
thank you for the link, lathes UK is an excellent resource.

Congratulations on your new family member. Keep posting.
Did a quick search on Type TLK motors, were they a universal motor? Quite a beast. Could the gearbox be utilized for 3 ranges with the VFD? Probably not necessary with 5 HP though.
Great to see kids with new toys.
Greg

Thanks Greg, it didn't give a dc rating, but it may run on DC
you are 100% correct the motor assembly weighs a ton!
the motor is single phase, possibly a VFD could run the motor but i'm not going to reinstall the motor

MG lathes are not that difficult to fix, Wards Leonard drives were used in lots of elevators, keep it original. The Moarch board at PM is your got to resource for experience of those who have been down this path before you.

Thank you once again Doubleeboy, i'll be sure to check PM out.

Nice. Just NICE!!!
Jealousy abounds from here!

Thanks Rgray, i love he look and can't stand to see her with a broken heart from sitting on the sidelines while other machines get to play!

Your nose is going to be too high in the air for you to see straight ahead. You will need to walk backwards to see where you are going.

Thanks Dave, i'm still on cloud 9!!!
i hope having a Monarch doesn't change me for the worse
you are welcome to come over anytime and fondle Mildred, if that's any kinda consolation

 

[Ulma Doctor]

Its a motor generator machine, The Sundstrom machines that were fluid drive look dramatically different and were not built as late at 1943, there span was very short maybe just a couple years. Got to love the looks of those round dial machines. Just in case you haven't gotten this far yet a MG machine has a AC motor driving a generator which then drives the DC motor. Its the DC motor and its tremendous touque that makes these machines so marvelous. Take out the DC drive and you likely will be left with a sad rememberance of what once was. Ratheon in Cali would only buy MG machines, said they were the best for maintenance, as of early 2000s they still had a boatload of em. Lot of MG enthusiasts on the PM board, Russ is a wealth of knowledge on em, he has had more than one.

I'll be sure to look up their resources, thanks!

 

[Ulma Doctor]

I have an almost identical machine.
That jack shaft arrangement does not look original to me. My machine had a 1:1 drive for high gear and then a 6:1 reduction for back gear. Your back gear looks about the same as mine.
I kept the back gear and mounted it to a 5hp 3 phase motor and VFD. the lathe has run this way for nearly 20 years now without any trouble at all. BTW, VFDs were EXPENSIVE back then.
Once you are done, you won't be using the other lathes for any job that fits in the 10EE. The machine is Soooo much nicer its just plain painful to use anything else.

Hi Karl_T,
i'm looking forward to making some chips very soon!
i'm very interested in how you did the conversion on your lathe.
what size pulley did you end up putting on your 5hp motor?
What RPM motor did you use 1750 or 3450?
thanks for the info!!!

How about another film strip with the brush access covers open? And push it outside the door when the trick o treaters come by and turn it on. That arching would light up the neighborhood. Bad to look at, too!
Nice find Mike!

Hi Ken,
thank you!!!
i thought about making a video in the dark of the old motor running, it would light up the whole block no doubt!
after running the motor i noticed a lot of ozone in the air, it has a distinct smell.

 

[Silverbullet]

Very sought after lathe . Ill never have one but it would be great to have. The way there built is an was forever. Not like now made to die in a short period of time. Good luck great machine yes I'm jealous and envious , I'm bad sorry.

 

[4GSR]

A 10 EE is my dream machine!!! Unfortunately, A Sheldon is my dream machine now.

 

[genec]

Hi nez!
i hope to have a pulse from the patient soon!
if i'm messing with a project, it usually keeps me out of trouble!!! (or gets me into trouble )

go look what robenz did to his good idea