Well, I know some time in the future I will probably have room for a 1640 lathe, and no matter how much I measure I cannot fit 109" length right now. The 1440 is going to be on the high 80" to low 90" length, I have a welding table, 3 X tool boxes, a 250 DX Syncrowave TIG machine, a 211 MIG welder, and a Sterling drill grinder. All in a 10' x 20' work space that is pretty tight, plus I have to worry about swarf trajectory, and through bore access. I guess I should be grateful for what I can do/fit now, and live with it, it's just the finances probably won't be there in the future to upgrade. Thanks for looking....