Weld with Water and Plasma

C-Bag said:
Very intriguing, never heard of this before. Thanks for posting Brino.
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Actually @Mike23 is the one that first mentioned it...... I just did a little scrounging to try to understand it.

two other thoughts.....

I had to loosen a stuck bolt today. This came to mind as a source of pin-point heating. But I got it loose without having to resort to the oxyacetylene.

This "heat gun" configuration would be very awkward for welding and cutting. Did you see in the manufacturers video above how he split his fingers around the nozzle and then guides with the other hand.....

-brino
 
brino said:
This "heat gun" configuration would be very awkward for welding and cutting. Did you see in the manufacturers video above how he split his fingers around the nozzle and then guides with the other hand.....
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Wait…WHAT!?!?! I didn’t see that.

Like others mentioned I wasn’t impressed with the look of his welds and from what I gather he’s a welding instructor. Maybe I’m just being picky.

It’s not surprising I’ve not heard about this not being in the trades anymore. Along with the tendency for people to ignore the new and radically different.
 
Hey guys. I'm kind of hyped about this Multiplaz now. AT 67 there's not too much that gets my motor runnin anymore. So Saturday evening after getting off of here I went ahead and Emailed Don's Engine. The guy Don actually got right back to me and then on Sunday we had a nice facetime talk. His bother was in on it too which was good. His brother is a retired BIW ship welder and welding inspector with 40+ years in the biz. He said that he also tried a Multiplaz a few years ago and now all his other equipment just collects dust.

SO the conversation was pretty long and the main take ways I got were this. The Multiplaz is never going to make the kind of welds a mig welder will. It welds from the bottom or root up. Very Hot and narrow welds. They both say the weld pool is like stirring pudding with a stick. You end up taking for granted that the penetration is already at 100%. His brother even took the piece that was demod and showed me the underside. Yup.. all the way through. Then he pretzeled it in a vise and pounded it out flat. The metal took a beating but the weld was 100%. Also Don is one of those way layed back guys that doesn't really seem to care about looks. Just performance. The other thing I got was yes, he does use it for heating stuff like you would with a torch. I also should have watched his video a little closer. He doesn't claim this tool to be perfect for every job. Its just one of a the tools he uses which has risen to the top of the pile. Which I get. I spent 35 years as chutes maintenance guy at the mines and Know you gotta have options and sometimes the tool you least expect to be your best does turn out to be your favorite.

Best of all, it turns out that Don lives about 30 miles from my wifes mother. He invited me to come mess with it which I'm taking him up on when we head down there for her 95th in Oct. So I may revisit this topic then after I get back. Maybe get some good pictures too. Mike
 
It took him 8½ minutes to disassemble and clean then re-assemble. In ¼ the time it took to make the little teapot stew and clean all that stuff, I will have already fired up the MIG, turned on the shielding gas, flap disc'd the parts clean, and made both of those welds. :)
 
General Zod said:
It took him 8½ minutes to disassemble and clean then re-assemble. In ¼ the time it took to make the little teapot stew and clean all that stuff, I will have already fired up the MIG, turned on the shielding gas, flap disc'd the parts clean, and made both of those welds. :)
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Ya, we talked about that too, but he did say in the video that its way faster going through it for real than it is actually doing. Its not something you do every time, Just on occasion when it needs it. I spent 30 years dickin with a MIG and the maintenance and need for bottles all the time I'm sure took up more time than he'll ever use up with the Multiplaz.
 
All good points. MIG is not maintenance free. It’s why I use flux core. I got tired of messing with gas. Not being a production shop I don’t weld every day and my rig needs to be stored away, then pulled out. My pack is so tight I have to pull the stinger because otherwise it hits the machines around it. It’s only a couple of minutes to clear the wire and connect up the stinger so no matter what there is set up involved.

It will be interesting to see what the field comparison will be with Multiplaz.
 
Ya, I can't wait to try it out. When I was working, I could just take stuff in to weld up. Now that I'm looking for a welder for home use, its a different story. just have to many memories fighting with that MIG welder that I now I just want something more hassle free. I have torch set thats good for brazing and gas welding etc.. But the prices on gas are getting out of hand now. at least where I live.
 
Does anyone know the purpose of the isopropanol?
Robert
 
Accordin to Don it burns off creating Co2 needed as an inert gas like you would use in MIG or Tig welding with Co2 or Argon or helium. I had to watch the video twice before I caught on to what he was saying. Makes a lot of sense.
 
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