Solar pump

It's mounted 4" off of the roof, so the solar guy's here will test the motor, and I'll check the impeller at the same time. If the motor tests good I'll replace the panel is my thinking. Thinking is when I get danderous :)
I think mine is a 10W 24v
 
Sounds like it could be one of multiple possible issues: 1) bad panel, 2) bad motor, 3) bad wiring in between. The low open terminal voltage does not sound good. But how much current (Amps) is required by the motor to run? Is there anything on a name plate or information in literature? Is there an on line link to information about this system to look at?

You can think of the solar panel as a DC power supply. If it is dying or has an internal problem then it may effectively have built in resistance and the voltage drop during load (current flow) is internal to the panel. On the other hand, if the cables are corroded at the connections then this would also represent a resistance and the voltage drop could occur there. Where do you measure the voltage in these experiments. At the motor? These connections should be getting, at least a little, hot. Either way, the motor would not be seeing much current as there would be little voltage appearing across the motor terminals, but if there are bad cables and connections the voltage should still appear at the output of the panel. Or, perhaps, the motor has died and is shorted internally. If there is a high amperage flowing the motor should be getting hot to the touch. If you have two car batteries available you could connect them in series to get to 24 volts and they should spin the motor. However, if there is an internal motor short these batteries may supply enough current cause a fire. So only connect them long enough to see if the motor runs. Since, you got the motor to run a little, it sounds like it is just not getting enough current.
 
The pump came on using the solar shop's panel, but is said to be at the end of it's expected life span, and the panel, and, or wiring may be the culprit. I connected the old pump when I got home to turn the water back on, and it has been running all afternoon. :rolleyes:
 
I understand the issue is resolved, but just curious.. is the output voltage of the panels effected by the amount of sunlight? Or just the current? Is it going to output lower voltage or just lower current in the Winter/cloudy compared to Summer/sunny? At 40º latitude (NYC), the Sun is noticeably at it's weakest now, and for the next few weeks through Winter Solstice.
 
The voltage changes with the sun intensity/angle, especially when clouds pass by, the motor RPM changes also.
 
The voltage changes with the sun intensity/angle, especially when clouds pass by, the motor RPM changes also.
This is why you should have a battery in the middle, its like an air receiver, the battery is a reservoir which takes up surplus power when you have peek sunlight and provides the surplus when your out of peek sunlight. I did some serious study on this for a project I did a while back and one of the biggest takeaways was have more panel than you need during peek and a good battery system to run off of.
 
I do not have a battery system for the hot water heater. We have enough sunlight most days that the tank will last for the night. We can run the electric when it is needed for cloudy days
 
I think the low voltage when ON is a sign that the motor has stalled; it could be a clogged impeller, and
might be fix-able by flushing with your handy pressure-washer...
 
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