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Need Some Help With Newly Acquired Atlas Lathe
- Thread starter Anthony G
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Thanks for all the responses. Regarding the collet chuck, I haven't finalized a decision. In one of my jobs, all we used were 5C collets. I know the size range of each collett is smaller, but the 5C are plentiful and I would most likely only purchase on an as needed basis. The chucks are more costly, but the collets are much less expensive. Honestly, I think the costs all work out to about the same regarding the total costs for 3C, 3AT, 5C, etc. sets. Another plus on the 5C is that since they are so common, there are more used sets available for sale. Like I said, though, I haven't decided yet.I also like the option of having larger size collets available (up to 1-1/16) if the need arises.
I'm still looking for a good deal on a drill chuck and arbor. Aren't the new Jacob chucks all import now? I don't know if I can justify paying those prices for an import chuck, but I don't want to pay an arm and a leg for American made either.
I went on eBay looking at MOLOs. None of the ads for the ones I saw mentioned anything about what revision number they were.
Regarding an earlier post, I looked all over the tailstock with a headset magnifier for numbers, but found none.
A QCTP would be nice. Asnice as they are, I don't think an Aloris is needed. I'm not outfitting a Harrison lathe here nor am I running production. I'll probably settle for used or an import.
I'm still looking for a good deal on a drill chuck and arbor. Aren't the new Jacob chucks all import now? I don't know if I can justify paying those prices for an import chuck, but I don't want to pay an arm and a leg for American made either.
I went on eBay looking at MOLOs. None of the ads for the ones I saw mentioned anything about what revision number they were.
Regarding an earlier post, I looked all over the tailstock with a headset magnifier for numbers, but found none.
A QCTP would be nice. Asnice as they are, I don't think an Aloris is needed. I'm not outfitting a Harrison lathe here nor am I running production. I'll probably settle for used or an import.
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Anthony,
OK on the collets. But I would buy a good 3-jaw first.
My understanding is that someone bought Jacobs and closed the US manufacturing plants. I wouldn't buy a new Jacobs chuck. You can find good used ones on eBay if you are patient. I've bought several.
The version numbers shown in the documents that I wrote are of my own creation. Atlas did not mark anything printed before 1955 in any way that identifies what it is. From 1955 on, you have the year and edition number. Prior to that, you just have to know what questions to ask, and ask them. The average eBay seller of a MOLO wouldn't recognize a lathe if it fell on him. As I tried to explain earlier, If the edition that you need is one of those identified only by Copyright 1937, odds are exactly 100% that the seller is clueless. You will have to ask the right questions and have a cooperative seller (most will be) in order to find the one you need. There is one on eBay at the moment that is for the early Craftsman 12". I have questions in on a second one.
OK on the collets. But I would buy a good 3-jaw first.
My understanding is that someone bought Jacobs and closed the US manufacturing plants. I wouldn't buy a new Jacobs chuck. You can find good used ones on eBay if you are patient. I've bought several.
The version numbers shown in the documents that I wrote are of my own creation. Atlas did not mark anything printed before 1955 in any way that identifies what it is. From 1955 on, you have the year and edition number. Prior to that, you just have to know what questions to ask, and ask them. The average eBay seller of a MOLO wouldn't recognize a lathe if it fell on him. As I tried to explain earlier, If the edition that you need is one of those identified only by Copyright 1937, odds are exactly 100% that the seller is clueless. You will have to ask the right questions and have a cooperative seller (most will be) in order to find the one you need. There is one on eBay at the moment that is for the early Craftsman 12". I have questions in on a second one.
Taking the advice from wa5cab, I am patiently searching local second hand book stores for a MOLO. Who knows when one might show up. I must confess the act of being patient is tough but I have so much to learn that taking baby steps will most likely be beneficial.
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If you don't turn up anything locally, set up a search on eBay for Manual of Lathe Operations 1937. Then be prepared to send a question each time one turns up asking what is in Part 7 - Threading. The second current possibility on eBay turned out to be one of the 37V2/3's (nothing in Part 7). The seller pulled the ad and is looking to see whether or not they have the loose supplement before re-listing it.
This sounds like a very difficult endeavor. I can see some big money being potentially wasted while trying to acquire a MOLO that actually corresponds to my lathe.
Is there any (better) potential of getting a MOLO from Clausing, even if one has to pay for a hard copy from them? I really don't care whether or not it is an original. Reproduction is fine with me.
That would be the definition of patience. Is there any chance that one could have ended up in a library? Probably not I would assume. I guess I can't understand under what circumstances a library would end up with a manual to a lathe.
Thanks for that information. I will be keeping my eye out. I wish the guy I bought it from would have had some literature. Sure would have made things easier. I did ask him.
BTW, I'm still debating about the collets. Weighing the pluses and minuses of each type, that kind of thing. I totally understand the points you made in regard to the non-5C types and I really do appreciate the advice.
Even their Super Chucks? Weren't the models with an "N" in the model # the USA made ones? I can't recall the specific models at the moment.