Lathe Dogs & Faceplates

[erikmannie]

I have the 4 lathe dogs that Grizzly sells. They all have bent tails. I have been using the bent tail dogs because I don’t have to take the time to put on a face plate.

I have a face plate for my 10” swing lathe, but I have never used it because, like I said, I just get bent tail dogs and have the chuck jaw push the tail.

So now I bought a 16” lathe, and I don’t have a face plate for that lathe. The spindle is MT6, I also have an MT6 to MT4 reducing sleeve, and this lathe uses D1-6 chucks. How would I go about getting a face plate for this lathe?

Also, can’t I just keep using bent tail lathe dogs & never have to buy or take the time to mount a face plate?

I also wonder what the largest bent tail lathe dog is that fits on a 16” swing lathe. My lathe has a gap bed, but I would not remove the gap bed for turning between centers.

Finally, it is weird that I have to use the compound to cut a new 60° point on my dead center on the headstock end every time I put a Morse taper dead center in my headstock spindle? It never inserts in perfectly, even if I hit it with a dead blow hammer.

 

[Ulma Doctor]

faceplates are great for odd shaped or otherwise un-grabbable by a chuck.
there is no rule stating that you must use a faceplate at all, but they come in handy

there are D1-6 faceplates for sale on ebay, amazon and machine tool dealers
used is generally the cheapest way to get one

cutting the 60° every time will ensure that the center is running true to the headstock

you may wish to spot the spindle taper and see what the problem is

 

[Jim F]

The reason I use a faceplate is real estate.
I can get 22" between centers, if I use a chuck to drive a dog, I am down to about 17"

 

[benmychree]

What diameter is the spindle flange on a D1-6? I have a dog driving plate that is 7- 1/8" diameter where it fits against the spindle flange.

 

[Stonebriar]

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[benmychree]

Here you go for an Ebay catch.

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That is a faceplate, not a dog driving plate. The dog plate is a good deal smaller and usually has one or two slots, sometimes four, and the slot go nearly to the center hole.

 

[Jim F]

First one is a dog plate, second is a fixture plate.
SB terms.

 

[Janderso]

You just answered my question. One like this came with my lathe. Haven't used it yet but I can see with a center in the spindle = lots of options

 

[Jim F]

You just answered my question. One like this came with my lathe. Haven't used it yet but I can see with a center in the spindle = lots of options

You need straight dogs for that.
1 came with my lathe, but I don't use it.

 

[Stonebriar]

That is a faceplate, not a dog driving plate. The dog plate is a good deal smaller and usually has one or two slots, sometimes four, and the slot go nearly to the center hole.

Yes I know.