One thing I have noticed is that the 6" - 12" Atlas and South Bend lathes seem to hold their value well. If you buy one in good shape at a fair price, add some elbow grease and paint you will get your money back (minus the elbow grease) when you decide to upgrade to your second machine. You won't be able to say that with a China machine as they loose value when you drive them off the lot. Unfortunately I like others had to sell my Atlas for one because I would never find a classic with 1.5" spindle bore, with left hand and metric threading, D1 camlock , ready to go to work, that would fit in my 2 1/2 car garage and that I could afford. There is lots of good info on H-M about the Atlas 10" and 12" if you do a search.