Gorton 9J came home to roost.

[markba633csi]

Ummm I can smell the old oil from here. Sweet.
Nice brazing job on the bracket- did you do the sand embedding thing to cool it slow? Any special techniques or black magic?
Mark S.

 

[Silverbullet]

I'd mix up some acetone and transmission fluid , to clean it and the bearings . After cleaning the bearings several times add lots of good oil til it runs clear . Those old mills are made to work , there's a nice one near me but I'm unable to get to it. Hes got a whole shop of old machinery . Been on craigslist for months I asked for some prices but he wants a call , I have to watch calling my better half gets *****e even if I'm only looking online.
In about seven hours I'll be getting another epidural shot I hope it does something better this time. I'm afraid it's gonna be operation time and I wasted months fartin around with these pain Dr. One hand washes the other for them overpriced pansy boys. Never did a days work in there lives. Lift in them books is hard.oh well scared to death cause last back.operations left me a quadrapertic . Another slip and full blubbering idiot or something. Shoot guess I'm DERN near it lol .Good luck with your mill I hope she turns out looking like new and tight .

 

[cathead]

Ummm I can smell the old oil from here. Sweet.
Nice brazing job on the bracket- did you do the sand embedding thing to cool it slow? Any special techniques or black magic?
Mark S.

You need to vee it out and get the mating surfaces clean. Then clamp the pieces together and fill in the vee grooves with brass. I used
an acetylene torch. No specific cool down procedure is really needed I don't think so just let it cool in free air. The slow cooling
procedure is more needed had I welded it with a cast iron rod. Even then for a break like that it probably wouldn't be necessary.
Slow cooling mandatory for welding up something like a crack however and drill stop the ends of the crack, peen the heck out of
it and cool slowly, hot ashes works good for that.

 

[cathead]

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I'd mix up some acetone and transmission fluid , to clean it and the bearings . After cleaning the bearings several times add lots of good oil til it runs clear . Those old mills are made to work , there's a nice one near me but I'm unable to get to it. Hes got a whole shop of old machinery . Been on craigslist for months I asked for some prices but he wants a call , I have to watch calling my better half gets *****e even if I'm only looking online.
In about seven hours I'll be getting another epidural shot I hope it does something better this time. I'm afraid it's gonna be operation time and I wasted months fartin around with these pain Dr. One hand washes the other for them overpriced pansy boys. Never did a days work in there lives. Lift in them books is hard.oh well scared to death cause last back.operations left me a quadrapertic . Another slip and full blubbering idiot or something. Shoot guess I'm DERN near it lol .Good luck with your mill I hope she turns out looking like new and tight .

Yes, I like the idea of transmission fluid and some kind of solvent. I will test run the mill as soon as I come up with enough wire
to reach the RPC in the shop. It's all together now with the exception of hooking up the two speed drive motor. The bearings seem to
have a pretty stout preload on them so I'm guessing they are OK. I had to use a skid steer to
set the motor on top of the mill. I estimate the two speed motor to weigh in at close to 200 pounds. The relay and breakers can be seen in this photo. That will be looked at as soon
as we can get some 3 phase power to the mill.

Good luck on your epidural shot. It's no fun struggling along and not seeing much improvement. Hopefully you will be rebounding soon.

 

[cathead]

A bit more progress today went on. I made a pair of X axis stops as there were none on the machine. Also I fixed the
X axis table stop that had no handle. And I reworked the quill feed stop as it was stuck and rusty. It took a couple hours of cleaning
and now it spins really nice on those fine threads and some light oil. The four electrical switches
from top to bottom are High speed, low speed, off, and HOPEFULLY up and down power feed for the Z axis. The bottom switch turns both left and right.....Otherwise it's :

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[FOMOGO]

You're really rolling right along on on the mill. Amazing what a little determination and elbow grease will accomplish. Hope that power-feed on the Z works out for you. Mike

 

[cathead]

You're really rolling right along on on the mill. Amazing what a little determination and elbow grease will accomplish. Hope that power-feed on the Z works out for you. Mike

Hi Mike,

If it turns out not to have powered Z, I have a couple of direct current wheel chair gear reduction motor drives that would work
and not too hard to do. Being direct current, motor reversal would be easy. I'm beginning to think that the left-right switch on
the control head is to reverse the spindle......... I work on the mill every day so it is moving right along.

Tomorrow I hope to get power to the mill and see if everything works.

 

[Silverbullet]

I've watched many old machines brought back to the life they were ment live. I believe any machine built during the war years and that era. Are the best the nation has ever produced. This old Gorton is proof all ready , ill even bet if the electrics are cleaned and lubed in the moving parts will still work like they did when new. Our nation has turned into the throw away buy new and replace. New shiny paint and chrome over old dingy gray 2 tons of cast iron. The question why no decent small machines , we aren't willing to pay , that's why.
Cathead I'm glad and proud to see your mill. Like I said wish I could get to the guy in Pennsylvania and to his shop. He has a ton of machines. Screw machines , turret lathes , monarch lathe ww11 , big punch press , several small mills with both H + V , Gorton mill and tons of tooling.
Had the epidural shot early home by 10, got back in bed around 11,15 , went thru same side affects about 7 hrs, constant urinating , about 8.30 seeming more normal , this time I forced myself to drink lots of fluids , don't need another er trip. Pretty stiff in back some pain but not the stabbing uncontrolled yet will see over the next week or so. I've got to get in my shop seven machines waiting to be put into use. Some will be easy others more . I'm livin through you guys on here now , hopping I can get the shop I've always wanted before I depart.

 

[cathead]

I've watched many old machines brought back to the life they were ment live. I believe any machine built during the war years and that era. Are the best the nation has ever produced. This old Gorton is proof all ready , ill even bet if the electrics are cleaned and lubed in the moving parts will still work like they did when new. Our nation has turned into the throw away buy new and replace. New shiny paint and chrome over old dingy gray 2 tons of cast iron. The question why no decent small machines , we aren't willing to pay , that's why.
Cathead I'm glad and proud to see your mill. Like I said wish I could get to the guy in Pennsylvania and to his shop. He has a ton of machines. Screw machines , turret lathes , monarch lathe ww11 , big punch press , several small mills with both H + V , Gorton mill and tons of tooling.
Had the epidural shot early home by 10, got back in bed around 11,15 , went thru same side affects about 7 hrs, constant urinating , about 8.30 seeming more normal , this time I forced myself to drink lots of fluids , don't need another er trip. Pretty stiff in back some pain but not the stabbing uncontrolled yet will see over the next week or so. I've got to get in my shop seven machines waiting to be put into use. Some will be easy others more . I'm livin through you guys on here now , hopping I can get the shop I've always wanted before I depart.

Hopefully things will get better for you. I have empathy for you suffering with pain like that. I have a few aches and pains too
but keep plodding along, doing what I can do. I used to be able to carry a heavy log balanced on my shoulder but pain stops
me from doing that any more. Maybe if I put a pillow on my shoulder first, I could still do it but it's probably best not to push my luck.
I have learned that it is probably in my best interest not to try and be like Paul Bunyan any more.
The Gorton is a little older than me and maybe in better shape , who really knows. I take big interest in refurbishing old
machines and machinery of the past. I can't imagine how many warehouses full of old machines that are just waiting for
someone to take an interest. Where I live in the north woods, there isn't much old iron around so when I locate something local,
I take a big interest. I'm betting the mill will work when it gets power without too much attention. The electrical boxes are
full of relays and resets so will be getting into that next. The cover on the Cuttler-Hammer box is gone but the scrap guys
think it's around somewhere. Maybe today I will do some looking myself over there. Otherwise I will have to fabricate
a cover to fit. Once it's up and running, it will proudly reside in the corner of the shop happy to make chips once again.

 

[HSS]

Cathead, my 9J has a hydraulic cylinder and a hand crank on the knee but I have never used the hydraulics. It was disconnected when I got it and have only used the hand crank. Does your 9J have the hydraulics on the knee, kinda hard to tell from the pics.
Great find, by the way!