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[Wreck™Wreck]

I've made round "Diamond" tool holders in the past. Never had a toolbit slip, it's surprising how well a 10/32 screw can clamp.

The geometry is the same as a normal RH tool, however these are dirt simple to sharpen! You don't always need a jig, some good lighting and practice and you should be good

This must be a finishing tool? I can not see plowing such a tool holder an eighth deep into say a a 304 part and having it live through it.

I rarely use HSS tools, one recurring job that I do is CPVC pipe flanges that I use a hand ground HSS tool for, it works well as do aluminum specific inserts if I have a new one, if they have been used on aluminum in the past they tend to leave a bit of fuzz. A spray bottle with water and a few drops of dish washing soap work well as a lubricant. for these materials.

 

[BellyUpFish]

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This must be a finishing tool?

No, it isn't. I guess you didn't click on the video?

 

[Wreck™Wreck]

I did just watch the video, and I am not inclined to use such a tool. This may be because I run lathes 50 hours per week or am simply jaded and set in my ways over 25 years, your choice.
I would not even consider trying HSS tools on this weeks job, have already skagged nearly $100.00 worth of inserts so far, I rough with all of the used tools that the other machinists won't use, I did break 3 used Kaiser Thinbit inserts making a dovetail O-Ring groove at 26.188" diameter, I was going way too fast. The Kaiser tools are excellent by the way look into them.

This unfortunately, is what I do for money.

 

[mikey]

I know this is utter blasphemy here and I'll throw on my flame suit for this comment but I have zero inclination to learn how to grind HSS bits "properly."

With modern inserts and tool holders such as a tangential holder, there is no (in my opinion) reason for me to learn to grind HSS in any other manner beyond "clamp it in the jig" as failing that, I'll be using inserts anyway.

I agree that this is a very cool tool and that most guys who post comments on them seem to like them a lot. Your implication that it works well enough to disincline you to learn to grind a conventional tool has been echoed by many other tangential tool users. I can see why that is - the tool is simple to grind with the provided jig and gets you cutting with little fuss. In the end it is your tool, your lathe, your choice and you shouldn't have to defend it.

With that said, I am sad that you seemed to have closed your mind on the matter of tool grinding. There are advantages there too, you know. The choice is always yours but it should be an informed choice.

 

[Andre]

Try it, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

[BellyUpFish]

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I did just watch the video, and I am not inclined to use such a tool. This may be because I run lathes 50 hours per week or am simply jaded and set in my ways over 25 years, your choice.


The Kaiser tools are excellent by the way look into them.

With 25 years under your belt, I'd imagine I wouldn't be inclined to go too far outside of what I already know either. Can't really blame you.

I'm at < a year of lathe time, so I'm still learning.

With that said, I am sad that you seemed to have closed your mind on the matter of tool grinding. There are advantages there too, you know. The choice is always yours but it should be an informed choice.

Well, I haven't completed closed my mind to it, I've actually tried it.

I guess just with the mix of a tangential tool holder and modern inserts, I don't see the need, but if it ever arose, I'd be willing to give it more effort.

Try it, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

A tangential tool holder or grinding HSS?

 

[Andre]

With 25 years under your belt, I'd imagine I wouldn't be inclined to go too far outside of what I already know either. Can't really blame you.

I'm at < a year of lathe time, so I'm still learning.



Well, I haven't completed closed my mind to it, I've actually tried it.

I guess just with the mix of a tangential tool holder and modern inserts, I don't see the need, but if it ever arose, I'd be willing to give it more effort.



A tangential tool holder or grinding HSS?

Tangential tool holder, although my post was inended to be a reply to Wreck Wreck. Sorry I forgot to quote.

 

[mikey]

Well, I haven't completed closed my mind to it, I've actually tried it. I guess just with the mix of a tangential tool holder and modern inserts, I don't see the need, but if it ever arose, I'd be willing to give it more effort.

I wasn't trying to back you into a corner - I hope I didn't give you that impression. I just wanted to suggest that you not close your mind off to HSS tool grinding - it is, after all, the option many experienced hobby machinists have chosen and there are some very good reasons this is so.

Good luck with this, and maybe you can post a review on your tangential tool experience when you get up and running. I would be interested.

 

[Wreck™Wreck]

Tangential tool holder, although my post was inended to be a reply to Wreck Wreck. Sorry I forgot to quote.

Never implied that it didn't work merely questioned the ability of the clamping arrangement on the pictured holder.

 

[BellyUpFish]

I hope I didn't give you that impression.

Not at all.