Sorry Tony Wells I know that this is way late but i just found this post, I use a simple turkey roaster to get temps up to 550 degrees. I stick a stainless thremometer down through the sand to watch the temp. Then when i reach the degrees i am looking for, i turn it off and the sand holds the heat till the next day when i can get stuff out. I use it mostly for flint, which need a real smooth steady heat or it will explode. But 550 degrees should work for most any tempering.