Having just schooled myself on the algebraic measure of the Lindy Effect, I find the Op topic easier to grasp. I like Grizzly - but I like Harbor Freight too. When buying from outfits that deal in Chinesium, it is important to do your homework. One must realize that heavy, precision & repeatable are not so readily obtained from such sources. I have a 6" RT from Grizzly. It's OK & does what I need on my Grizzly combo lathe / mill. Because I don't expect accuracy or precision from it, it does not fail me. I gave away the tailstock without ever opening the box, so I have no feedback there. I have upgraded to a real mill & have dividing heads for that. Worlds apart, really, the old American devises & what is affordable new.