Another New Welder

You should send a friend in with your claim slip & correct change, You are not strong enough to go it alone.:nono:

Now I need to decide which welder I should keep and which I should sell and what might be a reasonable price. I have some really nice (Female) quick disconnects for the leads on my tig/stick cabinet that I gutted to make a stand for my mig that I could use on the old Lincoln to upgrade it but I've seemed to have lost the male ends. I think I'll at least shorten the leads on the Lincoln back to the original part and scrap the added on portion since they are dry rotted/cracked all over.
 
Making a correction on Miller Electric Co. start date. The source is Wikipedia.
Niels Miller made his first stick welder in 1929.
Miller Electric Mfg Co. was incorporated in 1935.
Your welder looks like it's the Grandad of the Thunderbolt, from the early 60's.
The Thunderbolt from the early 60's, not yours.
Just a guess, your welder is post WW2 to late 50's. I currently have a Miller
A/BP 330 TIG welder that was built in 1961. It is there 3rd generation TIG welder
and was the Bently of there time. I still prefer it to my newer machines. I use
it weekly and it has been supporting me since 1979.
If your welder is tight in connections and sound it will still be welding for
another 75yrs. Very awesome find. Make shure the transformer and tap connections
are tight and that welder will show the new aluminum transformer junk what
it is like to use a real welder. It will have a very smooth arc.
To many people look and say what a piece of junk. Any tool that will get the job
done every day for over 100yrs in my eyes is no junk. When new stick welder
aluminum transformers burn out in just a few years of day to day use.

Enjoy your new find, it is a good one.

Take Care,
Rick
 
Thanks for the info Rick, I tried looking up the SN but it's not on the list I have. I may have another old welder coming next week about the same era and size with some long leads, it's a Forney. Which ever one I decide to keep will get a nice refurb to look original.
 
just because something's are old doesn't make them junk
some of the best tool and machine quality came from the old timers.
i have a lot of tooling made from 1870's to todays stuff
i like a lot of the older stuff better when quality meant something.
now we seem to get junk for premium price most times.

excellent find on the welder,
if you weld somewhere around 50-60% of capacity, it would most likely outlive all of us and still want more.
 
Charley Davidson said:
then I bought a small acetylene tank too that I really needed also. So this was not the sickness believe me
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Ok you are nearly there.Just the Oxygen tank and a set of regulator,s hoses and torch and you are set for the vice repair.
It is all working out very nicely. Nice buy on the welder too. Those liitle home units were built like a brick dunny. ( OK! translation for non Australian speakers) -exceedingly well overbuilt for the intended purpose. A nice little rectifier unit added to the AC output side to produce DC would make it a little ripper.-Truly an item a man would be fortunate to own.
Oz
 
Ozwelder said:
Ok you are nearly there.Just the Oxygen tank and a set of regulator,s hoses and torch and you are set for the vice repair.
It is all working out very nicely. Nice buy on the welder too. Those liitle home units were built like a brick dunny. ( OK! translation for non Australian speakers) -exceedingly well overbuilt for the intended purpose. A nice little rectifier unit added to the AC output side to produce DC would make it a little ripper.-Truly an item a man would be fortunate to own.
Oz
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I already had the oxy tank and a double torch (2 gauges on one setup with a rose bud & a cutting torch on a huge cart)

Tell me more about making this welder DC and can I make it a tig welder? And will it be less money than buying a stand alone tig and work as well?
 
Charley Davidson said:
I already had the oxy tank and a double torch (2 gauges on one setup with a rose bud & a cutting torch on a huge cart)

Tell me more about making this welder DC and can I make it a tig welder? And will it be less money than buying a stand alone tig and work as well?
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Hi Charlie,
If you can obtain or build the rectifier it is relatively straight foward process.The power source is a step down transformer from 220 volts (thats what I read on the label )

The rectifier can be a bridge type made up of diodes and is wired to the low voltage - ( output ) side of the transformer.Hi frequency can be an add on with these little welders.There were hi -frequency units made to be added to these welders and turned them into a tig unit- obviously with the addition of of an argon cylinder and regualtor ,hose ,etc. I have never clapped eyes on one ,but have seen enough pics of ones made by the major welder companies,Lincoln. Hobart and Miller come to mind.

I am pretty sure 2nd hand ones may be still available through the net -ebay and such.I reckon it would be mobs cheaper than a stand alone Tig
Oz
 
Here s a Miller manual for a similiar sized welder to yours.

http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o316g_mil.pdf

It shows the Diode bridge circuit and layout. There are bits and pieces of how to do this all over the net.
I do recall you may have to attach a reactor to the other side of the diode bridge. I am sure there must be few older guys around that have done this already.

Oz
 
Ozwelder said:
Here s a Miller manual for a similiar sized welder to yours.

http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o316g_mil.pdf

It shows the Diode bridge circuit and layout. There are bits and pieces of how to do this all over the net.
I do recall you may have to attach a reactor to the other side of the diode bridge. I am sure there must be few older guys around that have done this already.

Oz
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This seems to be a bad link, just goes to a blank page

Ozwelder said:
Heres one on a Lincoln conversion.

http://hildstrom.com/projects/ac-225/

Oz
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This is awesome, I have a tig welder I gutted a long time ago that still has all the front panel stuff and circuit boards & cable connectors. May come in handy.

Thanks for all the effort in helping
 
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