Thanks for the mention, Gordon. I've used circumference tapes [here we call them "pi" tapes] a bunch over the years. I worked at the Bingham-Willamette Co. in Portland, OR, where I used pi tapes to measure parts for one of the service tunnel boring machines used on the Eurotunnel job, up to 18 feet in dia. on a Betts vertical boring mill. For anyone not familiar, a pi tape is marked so that each inch is ~3.14 inches long, wrapping it around a round part reads the diameter. I see Stanley is putting them on the back of at least some of their measuring tapes, very handy for me at home working with pipe or tubing of fairly large size. Obtainable accuracy varies, with the high end ones making .010" tolerance easy on 20 foot dias., the ones on the Stanley tapes goes by 64ths, Lufkin's goes to .01", are plenty close enough for what I need. I fairly recently learned that a lot of people not used to running large machines don't know about pi tapes, handy tool.