finally got it off. wish i could post pictures; bun not able to do that yet. so, here's what worked. made a wooden clamp out of oak, drilled a 1.750 hole with a holesaw (the o.d. of the spindle at the rear) also made from round cherrywood a "spud" 1.405, the i.d. of the spindle the spud extended appx .625 at the back of the spindle hole. the spud was coated with rosen and driven in the spindle. it is tight. the clamp wood is 1.250 thick 3.5 wide and 11 in long. split it down the middle with the band saw. 4 bolts 1/4-20, top to bottom. (drill for bolts before splitting). a piece of whatever you have for the handle. i had a piece of oak 2.750 x .750 x 3 ft long. this is your breaker bar to hold the spindle from moving. a note on the spud. i got lucky and everything was to size. you want it to be driven tight , and, i used rosen on all surfaces. now for the chuck end. i bought a rigid strap wrench, but, may not have neded it. wrapped it around the chuck and a friend worked to steady the wooden clamp and i worked the chuck with the strap wrench. no luck. so another trick that i read about was Chuck Key. i made another out of .500 sq. stock. used the belt sander to make a very snug fit. the length is 3 in. . a couple wacks with a heavy hammer and OFF!! i think that a very imporntant thing is locking the spindle from moving. thanks for all of the advise and ideas. in hindsight, if this happens again; i'll lock the spindle with the strap wrench over one of the pulleys, and wack the longer chuck key that i made. the most time consumeing part of this was fabricating the wooden clamp. but its offfff