after doing this post I decided to change floor lay out in shop, I am moving most things to a out side wall so that I have more open space to work on projects, I can believe how much area is gives me and I don't have any worries about one machine being to close to another if both are being used at same time. soon as I get everything moved and anchored to floor I will try to post some photos of before and after to show area I gained with the move