New Clausing 6913 - Gear box engagement lever fixed!!!!

[wa5cab]

You are in the correct forum for questions dealing with the Claausing 6913 but for questions pertaining to the Atlas machine you should move to the Atlas Craftsman forum which is just a few Fora above this one in the list.

Robert D

 

[wa5cab]

You are in the correct forum for questions dealing with the Claausing 6913 but for questions pertaining to the Atlas machine you should move to the Atlas Craftsman forum which is just a few Fora above this one on the list.

 

[woodchucker]

what are you talking about? this is a very old thread?

You are in the correct forum for questions dealing with the Claausing 6913 but for questions pertaining to the Atlas machine you should move to the Atlas Craftsman forum which is just a few Fora above this one on the list.

 

[citizendefenseusa]

I wish it wasnt so many years ago I did all this so maybe my memory would be sharper on it than it is now!!! This forum loves pictures, maybe take some and post them and someone here can help you. From what I found back then, the roll pin I put in stops mine at just about 12 o clock(11:55 probably) Its worked great all these years, never had another issue(maybe its common on them????)

Did you add the roll pin and hole yourself? Mine looks different than yours in this area. Mine is a 6913, SN 600916, attached are a few pictures in this area of the gear engagement lever assembly. My pull-handle for the engagement lever appears to have been 'rigged', but it is functioning to engage & disengage the handle/lever. The problem with mine is that it can go past 12 o'clock and continue to rotate all the way around; meanwhile after 12 o'clock, the cradle gear falls off the gear engagement lever assembly (the 2 gears on that shaft) and drops down into the bottom of the gearbox as you mentioned previously. For now, I have marked the handle just before the gears disengage fully, which is plenty far out of the way for the power feed to fully disengage and remain disengaged. I prefer at some point to fix this problem, rather than rely on a Sharpie pen marking on the casting they call the Lock Anchor Hub (382-039) & collar (00-50).

I'm wondering if that roll pin on my machine is in a slightly different location/configuration than yours is because I see an 1/8" x 5/16" roll pin at the end of the Lock Anchor Hub (casting), but I haven't taken the cradle lock spring, spring hook, 3 roller pins & over-riding clutch out of the clutch lock all the way. If I did try to do that, the cradle lock spring hook (00-26) is pressed or seized on the cradle lift shaft (700-148) pretty well on mine, so it isn't immediately obvious how to remove it without potentially damaging the shaft or torsion spring, or the spring hook.

 

[Dhector]

Pull the entire assembly out of the lathe. I think it would be easier to fix and get apart. I didnt drill the hole, I just installed a pin in the hole since the manual showed one. I think its entire purpose it to stop the rotation of the handle, so the problem we had doesnt occur. If memory serves, 2 bolts and that entire assembly will come out. The torsion spring will have tension on it but if memory serves it can be relieved when its out of the machine. I think the end cap with the 2 holes and pins, and nut on the end keeps it from free spinning so you can remove it. I think if you get the entire thing out and free up the torsion spring you will be able to remove that shaft easier.





The gasket circled in red may need replaces(or make one, thats what I did)

 

[Dhector]

That first pic you posted(to the left) I assume is the end of the handle? I never took any of that apart on mine. I just disassembled the rest of the assembly so thats a different pin than Im referring to. The 2nd picture in my last post shows the roll pin and the handle. That hole is toward the headstock and will be hard to see if the entire assembly is installed.

I circled the location in this pic from years ago to give you a better Idea of the one I am referring to.

 

[citizendefenseusa]

Ok Thanks for the additional pics & details, that helps. Yes, the 1st pic was of the Cradle Lift Handle (381-040) which appears to be rigged, but functional for now. I had the entire assembly out of the machine and relieved the torsion spring/removed the end plate/cover, but the Cradle Lock Spring Hook (00-26) is what seems to be stuck on the Cradle Lift Shaft (700-148). I think if I get the collar and that torsion spring/spring hook removed from the Lock Anchor Hub (casting, 382-039) I will be able to see where that roll pin is, or should be.

Any recommendations on a gasket material? It looked like a fiber gasket material.

 

[Dhector]

Take a picture of your setup from this angle please. Does your 00-50 collar have a cutout relief area like mine(just above the handle in my pic) the manual doesn't show the cutout I have, maybe mine has been modified or the manual isn't accurate on that part, since it shows the pin. Anyway to see where the pin is at, you would need a mirror, or remove it to see where it's located, if yours is built the same way, and mine wasn't modified at some point. The pin is suppose to be in the 382-039 "lock anchor hub" you don't have to disassemble the assembly to see where it goes. It's external on the lock anchor hub. My serial number 601610 so it should be the same according to manual, unless this was a "fix" at some point in it's lifetime.

 

[Dhector]

I marked the parts in question. The yellow circled part isnt shown like this in the manual(manual doesnt show the cut out portion) but you see the cut out Im referring to. Red X is the 00-50 collar in the manual. The green stripe is on the lock collar hub and thats where the pin is installed(on mine anyway) If you look from behind the head stock(tail stock is farther away from you) the hole for the pin would be in the 9 o clock position and hard to see without the mirror(thats if the 00-50 collar is notched like mine is.) If if its not notched like the manual show, you will not be able to see the pin hole(and that would make me think mine might be modified, but Im not sure)

 

[Dhector]

Edit - The "cradle lock spring hook" just slides on the shaft and is keyed to the shaft. Guessing mine came apart without too much trouble or I may have remembered it being hard to get off. Was a day or two ago so it may have come off hard to. Dont remember. You should be able to just press the shaft out of it, or maybe a rubber mallet would be enough(if the key isnt sheared or rusted really bad since these machines were build somewhere in the 60's)