What do you do with your swarf/chips

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I'm pretty new to machining, and wondering, at the hobbiest level, what do you all do with your swarf and chips? I'm obviously not producing hundreds of pounds like a big machine shop might. Is it worth collecting and sorting to take them to a scrap or recycling yard?

For now I just throw it away, but it seems like such a waste, even the small amount that I'm producing.
 
when I was running a 300 man shop, the scrap guy wanted the aluminum and paid for it, but in turn we made him also take the shavings from all the steel cutting. he didn't like it but took it anyway. prior to him it was paying someone to take it away. ;throw it in the landfill. . . . .
 
I take it out with the trash - my output is about a small grocery paper bag every half a year which is 1/4-1/3 shavings/chips, and the rest is normal trash like shipping bags and protective covers from tools and whatnot.

One of the things I've learnt is to start projects with material that is as close to final size as possible. that helps in (at least) 3 ways:
  1. reduce chips/shavings/trash
  2. reduce number/depth of cuts = prolonged tooling/machinery sharpness/life
  3. reduce machining/labor time (more efficient work)

Obviously sometimes you just have to use what you've got and really cut it down to make due, but generally speaking I try to utilize the above concept when I can.
 
Unless you have enough to fill a railcar, the scrap yards generally don't want it if it's chips you are talking about. They store their scrap steel outside where a little rust won't hurt anything, but chips turn to useless rusty powder in a few rains and is worthless. They aren't going to store it inside. It's just not worth enough. Not too different if it's aluminum. Still have to have quite a bit of it to make it worth their while. Typical hobby shop volumes can't justify salvage. Just toss it.
 
There's an old fella in my neighborhood that scavenges junk of all kinds. I flagged him down one day and he was happy to take away ~40lbs of cross-contaminated swarf and bits of scrap. I now leave it in bags outside where he knows to get them. Magically, they disappear every few weeks. It's like having a magical elf...
 
Find a useless big screen retroproyector TV, get the fresnel lens from the screen, build a moving frame, buy a ceramic basin for foundry, pack the swarf as much inside a pipe with a ram, point the fresnel to the basin inside, put the swarf in.
Free sun heat up to 1400 C. Once the soup is done, add swarf or chips. Until you get tired.....

Well, poor mans free foundry, but saves the planet.
 
I haul into a steel mill on a somewhat regular basis, and they do take swarf or "turnings" as they call it, but they don't really care for it. Same thing with wire from shredded/recycled tires. It does not handle very well with a magnet, well, at least not as well as one might think, and is even worse to handle with a clam or grapple. They do store it all outside, and once it gets an initial coating of rust on it the rusting process seems to slow down. Once every few weeks they'll clean up the turnings pile, but the thing they dislike the most about the stuff is that it is difficult to make a good "recipe" with it, even though it may all be high quality steel. When they load the crucible, there is a lot of air space, and not a lot of tonnage. When they turn on the heat and melt it down, they don't get much of a pour out of it. As a result, the whole process gets backed up a bit while they try to run the stuff.

So the next question is "what do I do with mine?" It goes in the trash, not enough to bother about as far as recycling goes.
 
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I get these metal 5 gallon buckets from work on occasion for free, about 3-4x times a year.
All my steel shavings from the saw are packed in there, all my other shavings are thrown in and crushed down. When I turn these in they weigh around 200-250lbs. Not alot of money but hey at $12 per hundred it adds up at the end of the year. The big scrap steel place doesn't care for it but there's a smaller one started about 7 years ago by (2) 20 years old at the time, they don't care, money is money to them.
 
Well so far this year I have churned out 6 buckets (5Gal) of compacted swarf, which I take to the recyclers where I can dump it for free (garbage costs per ton to dump, but recyclables like metals are free to drop off, like batteries and toxic waste). I could just chuck it, but prefer to dump it there where it will get reused, plus there is usually enough cutting coolant on it to stop any rusting.
 
I have 3 20 gallon trash cans with lids and a 50 gallon also witn a lid. I only do aluminum, brass, copper and plastic (no steel). I will separate my aluminum chils, keeping 6061 and 2024 separated from 7075, and of course I keep copper and brass separate. I keep the solids separate as well as they pay a little more than chips.

When I fill the cans, I call my scrap guy and he picks up my stuff. Usually when he leaves, he will leave me anywhere between $40.00 and $75.00.

Oh, and of course, I report that income to the right people. Yeah, right.
 
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