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I am starting a project on my lathe which requires that I thread a 1.5X8 spindle adaptor to very accurately mount to my spindle. The suggested approach is to measure the existing spindle threads precisely using thread wires and to make a copy of this male thread very accurately to use in making the female adaptor (I guess to avoid having to keep using the spindle nose for trial fits). My machining skills are pretty limited and I want to learn (which is why I am doing this project to begin with) but I am a bit confused as to how to proceed.

It is my understanding that thread wires are used to accurately find the pitch diameter, how do I use this information to turn a copy of the spindle nose? In the past I have simply turned a rod to the major diameter of the threads I want and then threaded it to a depth that worked with my mating threads. How do I use the pitch diameter when threading?

I am adding this paragraph after the initial post because I may have answered my own question: I just realized that I am probably supposed to use the wires to periodically measure the threads I am creating on the "dummy" spindle nose and try to match that exactly to the previously measured spindle in order to get the exact depth.
 
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To add, yes, you answered your own question. Also you could turn and single point cut a 1.5-8 master to try the fit as you go. The master would also be good for future projects.

"Billy G"
 
I assume you are making the male threaded spindle replica holding it in either a three or four jaw chuck. Do you have another chuck or face plate that you know for sure fits on the spindle. If so, you don't need to use the wires at all. Just turn the OD to the major diameter, then start threading. When you start getting close, use you faceplate (or chuck) to test the fit.

Use this spindle replica in the same way when you are cutting your internal threads.

Having said that, learning to use the thread wires is a good skill to acquire.

Steve
 
Thanks, guys. Until I started this I didn't even know about thread wires, I ordered some yesterday. The idea of using a spare chuck for fitting is one I thought of but I need practice so I will do the replica anyway.
 
Good luck with this. Making threads is really fun and hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

A lot of problems can be headed-off by using a properly ground (or store-bought 60[SUP]o)[/SUP] cutting tip and making sure it's set perfectly perpendicular to the workpiece. -That will get rid of 90% of the common problems. It's also very helpful (if budget allows) to have a dedicated thread micrometer such as shown. They have a pointed tip and interchangeable anvils to read various ranges of TPI. This really speeds-up the fitting process and gives peace-of-mind you're getting the engagement you hope for and increases repeatibility if you're making several identical pieces.

There are a couple common thread cutting techniques. One involves a 30[SUP]o[/SUP] compound setting and gradual compound dialing-in up to a certain point, followed-up by crossfeed dial-in for completion. This is one of those "religious" areas and I'll take an agnostic view and say, do what works best for you. In my case, I just do crossfeed dial-in with deeper cuts at the onset followed up with lighter cuts and spring passes when I get down to the last 10 thou. Here's an example of the outcome of that technique...


Ray


SS Threads.jpg


Thanks, guys. Until I started this I didn't even know about thread wires, I ordered some yesterday. The idea of using a spare chuck for fitting is one I thought of but I need practice so I will do the replica anyway.

SS Threads.jpg
 
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All thanks really go to the nice piece of 316 SS.

FWIW, once that was setup, those threads were done in 7-8 minutes. That happens to be a non-standard diameter and it wasn't chased with a clean-up die. I made 9 more in the next hour or so. That one was with a home-grown HSS bit and several more were done with a generic carbide tip. -No difference between the two (as far as I can tell) but in this case, I preferred the HSS because I don't trust my carbide threading holder to firmly hold the insert. I just ordered a different style holder and will probably switch to carbide inserts. I found some really cool ones that have a positive rake and claim 50% fewer passes to completion.


Beautiful work, Ray!
 
Not need wires thread & fit thread & fit spring spring spring. Another good thing to do. Nothing to do?
Sunday? raining out? Make your self a bunch of, I call masters all sizes left/ right course/ fine. Years ago
I made a draw full and stamped them all even lathe spindle threads. Its no different than going to the
draw for a 1/2 box wrench, right. After the first fifty you will be a thread pro.
 
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