Somebody Else's Good Idea for Lathe Tapers

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I recently ordered some of the books from the Workshop Practice Series. Among these was #15, Workholding In The Lathe by Tubal Cain (not Mr. Pete). I saw an excellent idea for using a boring head as an offset tail stock:

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I'm going to try this.
 
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That's on my list of tools to make.
I will have mine do double duty as a boring head for the lathe spindle.

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Does the support that hold the work also tilt. Very interested in making one. Has anyone else made something similar?
 
I have been using that method for decades. But not with the adjustable angling dead center. I remedy the problem of center hole angle misalignment by using a conical center drill (that's what I call it ?) instead of the standard 60° center drill…Dave.
 
I have used a homemade boring head in the tailstock for taper turning. I used a 5/16 ball on each end of a piece of 1/4 HSS (with the ends dished) in the boring head 1/2 inch hole with ball bearings for the shaft to turn in. They were a yo-yo bearing.
Not a rigid set up so light cuts only.
Much better work for a grinder.
The boring head pictured looks like it has a carrier made specifically for angling the center to correct point contact.
 
I recently ordered some of the books from the Workshop Practice Series. Among these was #15, Workholding In The Lathe by Tubal Cain (not Mr. Pete). I saw an excellent idea for using a boring head as an offset tail stock:

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I'm going to try this.

Are you sure that is not mr. Pete? He has published some "books" as well as his great videos, and I think that is the title of one of them.


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Tom D. Walshaw (1912–1998) was an engineer, author and contributor to the British magazine Model Engineer. Many of his magazine contributions and books were authored under the pseudonym Tubal Cain. The pseudonym relates to the Tubal-cain, the biblical metal worker. As Tubal Cain he made over 424 contributions to Model Engineer, beginning in 1971. These were mainly divided between workshop equipment articles and model stationary engine constructional articles.
Walshaw published the following under the name 'Tubal Cain'
  • Building the beam engine Mary. Watford, UK: Model & Allied Publications, Argus Books, 1981 (83 p).
  • Building the Overcrank Engine "Georgina".
  • Building the Williamson engine. Watford, UK: Argus Books, 1981 (85p).
  • Model engineers handbook. Watford, UK: Model & Allied Publications, 1981 (170 p). 2nd ed: 1986. 3rd ed: 1996.
  • Hardening, tempering and heat treatment. Workshop practice series no. 1. Hemel Hempstead UK: Argus Books, 1984, (124 p).
  • Milling operations in the lathe. Workshop practice series no. 5. London: Argus Books, 1984 (125 p).
  • Soldering and Brazing. Workshop practice series no. 9. Hemel Hempstead UK: Argus Books, 1985 (136 p).
  • Drills, Taps and Dies. Workshop practice series no. 12. Swanley, England: Nexus Special Interests, 1987 (103 p).
  • Workshop drawing. Workshop practice series no. 13. London: Argus Books, 1988 (110 p).
  • Workholding in the lathe. Workshop practice series no. 15. London: Argus Books, 1987 (111 p).
  • Simple workshop devices. Workshop practice series. Hemel Hempstead, UK: Argus Books, 1980 (127 p).
  • Spring design and manufacture. Workshop practice series no. 19. Hemel Hempstead, UK: Argus Books, 1988 (95 p).
  • Building simple model steam engines. Watford, UK, Model and Allied Publications, 1980 (107 p).
  • Building simple model steam engines. Book 2. Hemel Hempstead, UK: Nexus Special Interests Ltd., 1998 (106 p).
Lyle Peterson also known as Mr Pete and as Tubalcain produces mainly videos on all aspects of machining.
Heres the list by subject.
Videos
Machine Shop Tips #1 Taps
Machine Shop Tips #2 Tapping
Machine Shop Tips #3 Tapping
Machine Shop Tips #4 Dies/Threading
Machine Shop Tips #5 Dies/Threading
Machine Shop Tips #6 Dies/Threading
Machine Shop Tips #7 Cutting Pipe Threads
Machine Shop Tips #8 Types of Threads - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #9 Types of Threads - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #10 Identifying Bolt Threads
Machine Shop Tips #11 Drilling Crossholes tubalcai
Machine Shop Tips #12 Thread Repair (male)
Machine Shop Tips #13 Bridgeport Mill - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #14 Bridgeport Mill - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #15 Bridgeport Mill TRAMMING with SPINDLE SQUARE
Machine Shop Tips #16 Clausing Lathe LH threading
Machine Shop Tips #17 Threading to Shoulder
Machine Shop Tips #18 Musing on Lathe Threading
Machine Shop Tips #19 Sine Bar Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #20 Sine Bar (with SPINDLE SQUARE) - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #21 Micrometers - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #22 Micrometer Quiz - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #23 Internal Threading on the Lathe
Machine Shop Tips #24 Acme Threading - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #25 Acme Threading - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #26 Transferring Holes - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #27 Transferring Holes - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #28 Hardinge Dividing Head - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #29 Hardinge Dividing Head - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #30 Facing on the Atlas Lathe - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #31 Facing on the Atlas Lathe - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #32 Turning to Dia. on the Atlas Lathe Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #33 Turning to Dia. on the Atlas Lathe Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #34 Turning to a Shoulder on Lathe
Machine Shop Tips #35 Parting on the Lathe - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #36 Parting on the Lathe - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #37 Parting on the Lathe - Part 3
Machine Shop Tips #38 Flame Cutting Straight - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #39 Flame Cutting Circles - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #40 Horizontal Bandsaw - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #41 Horizontal Bandsaw - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #42 Horizontal Bandsaw - Part 3
Machine Shop Tips #43 Vertical Bandsaw - Part 4
Machine Shop Tips #44 Vertical Bandsaw - Part 5
Machine Shop Tips #45 Bandsaw Blades - Part 6
Machine Shop Tips #46 Lathe Project BEARING - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #47 Lathe Project BEARING - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #48 Lathe Project BEARING - Part 3
Machine Shop Tips #49 Lathe Project Plumb Bob - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #50 Lathe Project Plumb Bob - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #51 Lathe Project Plumb Bob - Part 3
Machine Shop Tips #52 Buying a Lathe - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #53 Buying a Lathe - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #54 Buying a Lathe - Part 3
Machine Shop Tips #55 Hole Layout - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #56 Hole Layout - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #57 Bridgeport Mill DRO - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #58 Bridgeport Mill DRO - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #59 Bridgeport Mill Workholding - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #60 Bridgeport Mill Workholding - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #61 Atlas Lathe Gibs - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #62 Atlas Lathe Gibs - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #63 Clausing Lathe Gibs - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #64 Clausing Lathe Gibs - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #65 Lathe Project Pulley - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #66 Lathe Project Pulley - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #67 Lathe Project Pulley - Part 3
Machine Shop Tips #68 Atlas Milling Attachment - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #69 Atlas Milling Attachment - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #70 Atlas Lathe Attachment - Part 3
Machine Shop Tips #71 Atlas Lathe Taper Turning - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #72 Atlas Lathe Taper Turning - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #73 Turning a Morse Taper - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #74 Turning a Morse Taper - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #75 Measuring Dovetails on the Atlas Lathe
Machine Shop Tips #76 Milling a Dovetail on the Bridgeport Part 1 of 2
Machine Shop Tips #77 Cutting a Dovetail on Bridgeport Mill Part 2 of 2
Machine Shop Tips #78 Aligning Lathe Centers - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #79 Aligning Lathe Centers - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #80 Miller Plasma Cutter tricks - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #81 Miller Plasma Cutter tricks - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #82 Bought a used South Bend Lath
Machine Shop Tips #83 Custom Power Feed for Atlas Lathe
Machine Shop Tips #84 Introduction to Identifying Metals
Machine Shop Tips #85 Identifying Metals - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #86 Identifying Metals - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #87 Identifying Metals - Part 3
Machine Shop Tips #92 Tramming a Drill Press
Machine Shop Tips #93 Checking the RPMs on Shop Machines
Machine Shop Tips #94 Grinding Lathe Centers With Dumore Grinder
Machine Shop Tips #95 Making a Test Bar - Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #96 Making a Test Bar - Part 2
Machine Shop Tips #97 Dressing Your Bench Grinder Wheels
Machine Shop Tips #98 Grinding a Lathe Threading Tool
Machine Shop Tips #99 Aligning Lathe Centers TEST BAR METHOD
Machine Shop Tips #100 - Ways to Tap a Hole Straight Part 1
Machine Shop Tips #101 - Ways to Tap a Hole Straight Part 2
Foundry Videos: Casting, Coremaking, Foundry and Patternmaking
FOUNDRY CASTING Making a Sand Mold - Part 1
FOUNDRY CASTING Making a Sand Mold - Part 2
FOUNDRY CASTING Molding with a Split Pattern - Part 3
FOUNDRY WORK Melting & Pouring - Part 4
FOUNDRY WORK Mold Casting Shakeout - Part 5
FOUNDRY WORK molding irregular parting line Part 6a
FOUNDRY WORK casting irregular line parting Part 6b
FOUNDRY PATTERN MAKING Steam Engine - Part 1
FOUNDRY PATTERN MAKING Steam Engine - Part 2
FOUNDRY PATTERN MAKING Steam Engine metal casting - Part 3
FOUNDRY PATTERN MAKING Steam Engine metal casting - Part 4
FOUNDRY PATTERN MAKING Steam Engine metal casting - Part 5
FOUNDRY PATTERN MAKING Steam Engine cores - Part 6
Machine Shop Videos
BRIDGEPORT MILL Tramming or Indicating the Head to Zero
BRIDGEPORT MILL indicating the vise
TOOL BIT GRINDING #1 South Bend Atlas Lathe
TOOL BIT GRINDING #2 South Bend Clausing logan Lathe
TOOL BIT GRINDING #3 South Bend Clausing logan Lathe
LATHE TOOL BIT GRINDING #4 South Bend Clausing logan
THREADING on the CLAUSING LATHE South Bend - Part 1
THREADING on the CLAUSING LATHE Atlas Logan Part 2
MORSE TAPERS on Atlas & Clausing Lathes
South Bend & Atlas LATHE TOOL HOLDERS
Three Jaw Chucks on Atlas Clausing Hardinge Lathes - Part 1
Three Jaw Chucks on Logan Clausing Hardinge Lathes - Part 2
SCREW BACKLASH on Atlas Clausing Lathe
USING THE EDGEFINDER ON THE BRIDGEPORT MILL
CUTTING A WOODRUFF KEYWAY on the BRIDGEPORT MILL
CUTTING A STRAIGHT KEYWAY with BRIDGEPORT MILL
BROACHING A KEYWAY IN A PULLEY
TAILSTOCK CENTERS on South Bend Clausing Atlas LATHES
TAILSTOCK CHUCKS for the Atlas Clausing South Bend Lathes
TAILSTOCK ALIGNMENT on Clausing Atlas South Bend Lathes - Part 1
TAILSTOCK ALIGNMENT on LOGAN HARDINGE South Bend Lathes - Part 2
Threading with a Procunier Tapping Head
Bridgeport Mill part1 Indicating a Hole prior to boring
PARTS OF THE CLAUSING METAL LATHE
BORING ON THE BRIDGEPORT MILL - Part 2 Criterion Head
BORING ON THE BRIDGEPORT MILL - Part 3 Criterion Head
THE BRIDGEPORT MILL - Part 4 Drilling a Bolt Circle
Threading Big Holes with an Enco Tapping Head
The Use and Care of Drill Bits - Part 1
The Use and Care of Drill Bits- Part 2
The Use and Care of Drill Bits - Part 3
SPLICING A LEATHER SOUTH BEND LATHE BELT
Parts & Operation of the Logan Lathe
Turning a Taper on the Logan Lathe
The Use and Care of Reamers - Part 1
The Use and Care of Reamers - Part 2
The Use and Care of Reamers - Part 3
Steam & Stirling Engine Videos
Solenoid Magnet Motor Like Steam Engine
Stirling Hot Air Engine - Part 1
Stirling Hot Air Engine - Part 2
Steam Engine Locomotive Teaching Aid Demo
Electro Magnet Motor Mesco Avery Patent
Robinson Hot Air Engine
Wobbler Steam Engine Overhead Crank
Electro Magnet Coil Engine (motor) #3
Stirling Hot Air Engine runs on Snow
Double Solenoid Electric Engine Motor
Over and Under Stirling Engine Hot Air
Stuart #9 Steam Engine Running w/Governor
Steam Engine - 2 Cylinder
Steam Ball Engine Aeolipile Hero of Alexandria
Stirling Hot Air Engine Water Cooled
Principles of Stirling Hot Air Engines
Hit and Miss Gas Engine McCormick-Deering - Part 1
Solenoid Magnet Engine Electric Motor
Jensen Model Toy Steam Engine Under Power
Cretors Model Popcorn Wagon Steam Engine
Elmer's Engines Steam Model 2 Cyl - Part 1
Elmer's Engines Steam Ring Gear - Part 2
Building a Model Steam Engine
Building a Model Steam Engine - Part 1
Building a Model Steam Engine - Part 2
Building a Model Steam Engine - Part 3
Building a Model Steam Engine - Part 4
Building a Model Steam Engine - Part 5
Building a Model Steam Engine - Part 6
Building a Model Steam Engine - Part 7
Building a Model Steam Engine - Part 8
Building a Model Steam Engine - Part 9
Building a Model Steam Engine - Part 10
Metal Shaper Model
Metal Shaper Model - Part 1
Metal Shaper Model - Part 2
Metal Shaper Model - Part 3
 
Have seen similar before. The angle adjustable center feature seems like it would improve stability. Mike

The boring head pictured looks like it has a carrier made specifically for angling the center to correct point contact.
 
I use a ball bearing center in the headstock and this adjustable center in the tailstock

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I use a ball bearing center in the headstock and this adjustable center in the tailstock
Am I correct in thinking that the ball bearing replaces a dead centre but still requires a dog to drive the shaft?
 
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