PM1030V chuck adapter plates

Batmanacw

Registered
Registered
Joined
Sep 3, 2020
Messages
1,767
If you own a PM1030V or PM1022V you will want to see this.

The adapter plates on the 3 and 4 jaw chucks are not flat. Mine were 0.002" to 0.004" out of flat.

These pictures show the bright areas where I lapped both sides to see where it was touching.

Spindle side.

20210913_092131.jpg


Side toward the chuck.

20210913_092608.jpg


I suggest you consider surface grinding and lapping it in, or just lapping the mating surface of the adapter that sits against the spindle nose.

On the lathe I turned the flat face surrounding the spindle nose because it was 0.004" off perpendicular to the spindle nose, which had no run-out. The flat part was dished in the center so it showed little run-out but it wasn't flat. I didn't show this here as I fixed it a few months ago.

This is the heavy touch off. Probably around 0.0005". Pretty crazy how poor the contact surface is.

20210913_092925.jpg


This is after another 0.001".

20210913_093053.jpg


Thus is my 0.0005" clean up.

20210913_093442.jpg


After this I lightly lapped it and the contact was dead flat.

Once the adapter plate was flat on the back I mounted it on the spindle and turned the face the chuck rides against and then trued the locating diameter. This means that the location is not longer done by the horribly running out step, but by dialing in a gauge pin held in the chuck, and tightening the bolts holding the chuck to the adapter plate.

In my 3 jaw chuck, on a 3/4" pin I can get it to repeat within 0.001" after removing the chuck. This was done several times taking the pin out and taking the chuck off and remounting it. I dialed it in on that pin so it seems to be happy there. It was pretty good at 1.5" but it was a couple months ago. I think it was 0.0015 off at 1.5". A 1/2" gauge pin it will repeat at exactly 0.002". The joys of scroll chucks!

I had to clean up the shoulder on the 4 jaw too so I dialed it in on the body within 0.0005". It repeated right at 0.001" run-out taking it off and back on. I need to check the face for run-out but I haven't yet.

These adapter plates are easy to fix but it is still frustrating that they are so poorly done from the factory.
 
Personally, I'm more concerned with the OSB workbench!

The purple rock on your spinner brings the memories... I can taste and smell the A2 dust now. :dancing banana:

A nice clean grind is satisfying isn't it? I've got a much easier method though...

Don't put dial indicators on things, perfect parts every time! (All atmosphere fit of course).

Also, if ever your part is 0.0005" over in the mics, a little tweak on the thimble will bring it right into tolerance :laughing:

I own that lathe, got extra plates for it, even made a backplate's backplate to mount an 8" 3-jaw. In that case, it's turned and faced to whatever the runout is, so I ain't touchin' it!

The 3 and 4 jaws that came with the lathe? See, if I dial them, then I'll know - and then feel compelled to fix them.

Seriously though, it is best that one simply assume "some grinding required" on anything that is 1. Less than $15,000.00, 2. Newer than 2000, or 3. Includes some variation of the words "For very happy thanks on customer, pleased machine purchase!"

Most every tool I have came on a boat - some have issues, some don't. Knew it when I bought them - otherwise for the money I've spent on a full suite, I could have a Starrett 0-1" mic, a Kurt, and a 70 year old Atlas.

In any case, awesome TIR on your chucked pins!

I don't know what mine is. My precision eyeball says it's somewhere between 0.0000005" and Jupiter, so I figure it's good for now!

(But, thanks for the heads up - I got me a T&C grinder that'll do this, so if I ever feel randy, that I'll do!)
 
Thanks for the info. I'll check mine. Interesting thing to me is that your backplate looks different from my PM-1030V purchased this summer.
 

Attachments

  • PM-1030V-chuck-backplate.jpg
    PM-1030V-chuck-backplate.jpg
    608.4 KB · Views: 109
Back
Top