New Member... New To Me Monarch 10ee

[Joe Brick]

New member here. Setting up a home shop and found this beauty at a local shop who needed more room.



I also bought a mill from the same guy



Anyway the mill is 2hp and I can't see what the hp is on the exciter drive motor. I will be getting a rotary phase converter as soon as I know what size to get. Any help would be great!

Here are some more pictures....









Great site by the way


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[FOMOGO]

Don't have any personal experience with the Monarch, but I know they are highly regarded and sought after. That brand mill I've never run across, although it appears to be pretty much the same as any of the Bridgeport clones. Let us know what you find as you get into them, and welcome to the site. Mike

 

[kd4gij]

You can get a brochure here. It says 5hp DC. there is also a couple manuals there also.
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/2103/5673.pdf

 

[Chipper5783]

Those will be some nice looking machines. What attachments and tooling did you get? Hopefully there is a tailstock for the 10EE.

I'm a phase converter fan - I have 6 machines connected (some at 240V, some at 600V). Ask away on your questions.

Regards, David

 

[brino]

Hi Joe,

Welcome to the site!

It looks like you'll have a complete shop full of equipment in no time.
Congratulations on finding that equipment.

some more Monarch info here:
http://www.hobby-machinist.com/resources/categories/monarch.510/
http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html
http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgIndex/detail.aspx?id=2103&tab=3

Although I have heard of the Induma mill (on this site) I know little about them, however I did find these:
http://www.hobby-machinist.com/resources/induma-1-s-manual-and-repair-parts-catalog-pdf.2637/
http://www.hobby-machinist.com/resources/induma-1s-brochure-pdf.2185/
http://www.hobby-machinist.com/attachments/induma-1-s-pdf.80417/
http://www.hobby-machinist.com/attachments/induma-mill-manual-pdf.80418/

Is yours a model 1/S?

-brino

 

[Joe Brick]

Thanks for the links fellas... I didn't get much tooling with the machines. The lathe did not come with a tail stock but I hope to find one. The Induma is a 1s. Both machines were hooked up when I made the deal and I used them both on site. Very satisfied! Just need some electricity and I'll be going. Have 15 yrs of experience in the trade but not much with phase converters. I do believe the rotary is the way to go. Thanks again I'll keep posting the progress as I am cleaning them up and prepping for paint


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[T Bredehoft]

'Scuse the envy. I had use of a 10EE for a while, then management deemed it not worth keeping.

You have a turret tailstock. That's far superior to a regular tailstock. Don't waste time or money looking for one. That will do as a regular, in addition to the turret function.

Enjoy your tools.

 

[hackley69]

That is my dream lathe! Keep us posted on your progress.

 

[old_dave]

This is Monarch's 10EE "Precision Manufacturing Lathe" (as opposed to the 10EE "Precision Toolmakers Lathe".) These were intended for manufacturing, i.e. turning out large numbers of small identical parts. I expect many of these were sold with the optional bed turret like yours. Unlike the toolroom model, this will not do single point threading - doesn't have the lead screw and has a much simpler gearbox just giving six different feeds.
David

 

[old_dave]

And furthermore... If you've already looked at the lathes.co.uk reference that brino posted, you've seen that the DC generator is driven by a three phase motor of "about 6.5 h.p." The D.C. spindle drive motor is three h.p. According to some 10EE histories I've seen, Monarch replaced the motor-generator drive (sometimes referred to as a "Ward-Leonard Drive") with a vacuum tube based drive in 1949, BUT they continued to supply these machines with the motor-generator set for several years afterward if the buyer so desired. It looks like your machine has a build date of 2-1954. The vacuum tube based drive is often referred to as the "Works-in-a-Drawer" or WiaD for short because the tubes and other electrical components were mounted on a panel that could be slid out from the base of the machine. The Wiad was more efficient and quieter than the motor-generator and ran on single phase power. On the other hand some of the vacuum tubes, in particular the thyratron rectifier tubes, are really expensive. And drive problems with the motor generator drive are said to be easier to sort out than the later electronic drives.

In 1960 the WiaD was replaced with the "module box" drive, so called because the functions of most of the vacuum tubes were replaced by diodes which were housed in, well, what was called a module box. At this time the spindle drive motor was increased to 5 h.p. This drive continued to use two of the uber-expensive C16J thyratron rectifier tubes and one C3J rectifier tube.
David