Need Advice On Tools To Buy

Jtfondy

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I have a g0709 14x40 lathe and a g9901 9x42 mill , and no tooling . Looking for the best order to buy tooling . I have very little experience in machining , but am a heave machine mechanic that wants to learn. Thanks for the input, J.T . Fondy
 
It's going to depend on what you want to do with it. If you don't have drills your going to need at least one set to start I started with fractional up to 5/8. You'll need more but that will get you started. Some high speed steel end mills maybe 1/8,1/4,3/8,1/2 don't waste your money on carbide yet your most likely going to ruin a few. Some 3/8 hss blanks for the lathe to grind your cutters. A drill chuck for the mill and or collets. A vise for the mill. I Could go on spending your money but It's hard to say really without you providing more information.
 
You will need a couple of center drills. Two different sizes helps. Also consider making a part stop, several different plans are out there.

Good luck and welcome to the Club.
 
For drill bits, I would recommend "screw machine" bits over "jobber" bits. They 're shorter and "stiffer". I hardly ever need the jobber length in my mill or lathe. For sizes, 98% of the time ( 62.3% of all are statistics are made up) I use tap drill bits + one size larger and clearance drill bits + one size larger.

Ken
 
I have a g0709 14x40 lathe and a g9901 9x42 mill , and no tooling . Looking for the best order to buy tooling . I have very little experience in machining , but am a heave machine mechanic that wants to learn. Thanks for the input, J.T . Fondy
I would start with tool and work holding. I have almost the same mill as yours, 9902, either buy R8 collets or I went to the ER 32 system. By the way my mill with in 6 months I needed a new motor and new spindle bearings. For the lathe I use the quick change tool holders. Personally I can't tell the difference between the wedge and post types. I have used KDK, Aloris, and cheap Enco sets all work good. Use a good 3 and 4 jaw chucks.
 
It's going to depend on what you want to do with it. If you don't have drills your going to need at least one set to start I started with fractional up to 5/8.

In addition to the fractional sizes, go to McMaster and order a couple #7 drills... get a few short ones and maybe one longer one.
#7 is the tap drill for a 1/4-20 thread, so you'll probably end up using those often.

Get yourself some decent measuring tools. At the risk of opening up a big can of worms, I'd highly recommend getting a good pair of digital calipers. Used 6" Mitutoyo's can be had on eBay for $50. Lots of people will say that they're not accurate, but I use mine all the time and whenever I double check with a mic, it's almost always within .001. Regular (non-digital) micrometers are cheap. Commercial shops have largely abandoned them because digital is faster. That's good for us home shop types. Excellent Starrett, B&S, Slocumb mics are cheap-cheap-cheap. Start with 0-1, 1-2, 2-3 sizes. I've got some up to 6" and don't think I paid more than $10 for any of them. You'll also want some telescoping bore gages. Cheap ones are fine since you're not actually measuring with them, you're using them to transfer the dimension to a mic or caliper.
 
If you are going to drill and tap for small # screws you are going to need a drill set with the numbered drills. I bought a cheap set, not the cheapest and then filled in the worn ones with hi quality bits as needed. I would also buy some decent quality taps from Enco in the 3 for sets that include taper, plug and bottoming.

michael
 
I presume that you already have work holders for both lathe and mill (vise, 3-jaw or 4-jaw chuck and so forth). Likewise, I assume that you have cutting tools for both lathe and mill with the means to secure them (collets for mill, tool holders for lathe).

Taps and dies can be purchased singly as you need them - you'll eventually end up with a full set that meets your needs.

You will also need drill chucks for both lathe and mill. Here are some other items that you'll need - maybe not immediately but you will need them at some time. I'm not going to include the tools that have already been mentioned.

6 inch bench grinder with 80 grit aluminum oxide wheel and green wheel
edge finder
center finder
boring head for mill
1/8 and 1/4 spotting drills
live and dead tailstock centers for lathe
dead headstock center for lathe
faceplate for lathe
set of lathe dogs
1 inch or 2 inch travel indicator
.0005 dial test indicator
.0001 dial test indicator
adjustable holder for DTI with magnetic base
set of parallels for mill
machinists square with centering and protractor heads
scribe
center punch
hammer with soft face
set of step blocks, studs, nuts and clamps for mill
small hand-pump oil can
telescoping bore gauges
small split ball bore gauges
pair of 1-2-3 blocks
pair of vee blocks
copy of "Machinery's Handbook"
small tap wrench
medium size tap wrench
1 inch die holder
set of pin vises
large magnifying glass
medium mill file
roll of 220 grit sandpaper
#000 steel wool
medium and fine whetstone
small diamond lap
1 gallon Vactra #2 way lube
1 gallon Mobil DTE
1 gallon pipe threading oil
3/8 countersink
3/4 countersink
set of counterbores in sizes that you will use
set of fractional reamers, 1/8 to 1/2
set of jewelers files

and it goes on and on :)
 
save your money and buy but the bare essentials a piece at the time
wait for the rest untill you see a next of kin trying to sell shop-items having belonged to the home shop of husband, father etc. that has deceased.
then pay the widow etc. a fair and decent price for the lot and you will both be happy
 
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