multi-usage steel table with wheels (need ideas)

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so my stuff is in the garage. Occasionally I like to wheel it out into the driveway when I do cutting and such. There's also two vises attached to said table I built out of wood. Whenever I use the vises, the table moves around and screws things up. Also, since I got my new oxyacy welding setup, I'd like to make a completely new table out of steel to do welding on. So 3 questions:

1. If you build a table with wheels, how do you stop it from moving around when, say, you are using the vise and hacksawing stuff

2. How would you build a welding table using inexpensive materials? I'm thinking maybe bedframes?

3. Pls show some pictures or plans

thanks

DaveV
 
Only put 2 wheels on one end that is mounted just off of the floor, so when you pick up the opposite end, the wheels will engage the floor and you can move it.
 
The heavier and thicker you can make a welding table the better it will perform. Heat has a tendency to warp and bow the top so You want to use as thick a piece of plate as you can afford. The legs should also be of good quality square tube with thick walls and copious cross and under bracing. That way when you are persuading something to line back up with you 8Lb persuader you wont had divots and issues. I also tend to weld jig stops and alignment pieces right to the top and grind them off when I complete the project. I also use a reciever hitch type system for vises, chop saws, Bending bucks and grinders. They are easilly interchangeable and do not encroach on your work space when you really need all you can get. My table top is 4X6x.25 and has 2 inch square x3/16th thick wall legs and 1 inch square lower shelf suppots and cross braces. I had to heat the top to remove a bow but it is tacked down and solid as a rock now. The casters are on one end only and I use a hand truck to lift and drive it around the shop. I dont move it very often though. The shelf is made of expanded metal to allow dust, slag and schmutz to fall through without piling up and making a bigger mess. It's heavy, I would estimate 450-500 pounds and I do move it occasionally when using my 10Lb sledge. Once my top becomes damaged I will grind weld and recover it with a 1/2 plate after I get the bows and divots beaten back out so it is as close to flat as I can make it. I would strongly recomend not trying to go light or cheap on a good welding table, it should last your Grandkids there entire lifetime with no problems.

Bob
 
They make wheels with an integral cam to bring them to the floor and raise the load for movement. Sort of like the extra axle on a trailer.

It goes something like this... Move the table where you need it, with your foot, lift the lever and the wheel cams up letting the table down on its legs. See here: http://www.amazon.com/Woodtek-Hardw...367366159&sr=8-2&keywords=Retractable+Casters

A really clever design may be for a three legged table. No amount of warping or uneven floors will make that rock!

John
 
If you could find a fab shop that had drops of channel iron, you could use them for a top, welded to a frame of round or square tubing. Leave a 1/2" space between the channels and you will have a convinient place to pass hold down clamps through. The legs and frame can be filled with concrete (super heavy) and the movment could come from 2 trailer jacks with wheels. In my neck of the woods I can find 30' joints of 2-7/8" drill stem (upset tubing) for around $25. If you have some scrap yards around you might find the channel iron, dosent matter the width, as long as you get, or cut the highth all to the same size.
My previous experiance with bed frames is that the material is thin, and soft. I personally would steer clear of it for any kind of structural support.
I buy "shorts", and "drops" from a local welder who builds church steeples out of square tubing. He sells his scrap for about half of the cost of new.
 
Several months ago I bought a used table saw mounted on a nice cabinet. Only trouble was, the cabinet was on a set of very small and crummy casters. Not only did they (almost) not roll when I wanted to move the saw, but they also *loved* to roll when I was cutting and wanted the thing to sit still!


I designed and fabricated a pair of “toggle action” caster plates to go under both ends of the saw cabinet. They allow me to roll it around smoothly on a set of larger/better casters, then raise the casters off the ground and set the saw on a set of fixed feet. The attached photos illustrate the general design. Obviously, every tool is different, so you’ll have to adapt it to yours.


(1) The “underside” CAD rendering shows how the (brown) caster pate and doubler are mounted to the underside of the tool cabinet, using two hefty door hinges and a (purple) mounting bar. The bar is attched to the underside of the cabinet. Its thickness is determined by the heights of the casters and fixed feet. For my setup, the casters lift the tool off the feet by ~1/2”. The caster mounting plate should be level at this point, or else the casters will not swivel correctly. Note that the caster plate (3/4” plywood) is doubled, except where the casters are mounted. I added this feature to the design after I noticed that a single piece of 3/4” ply is a bit too flexible. The fixed feet are cut from 2x4s and include rubber cups. PS - the horizontal “discs” on the casters are just to show where clearance is needed when they swivel.


(2) The first photo shows the toggle action mechanism set to lift the tool onto the casters. The operating rod is a piece of 1/2” steel from Home Depot. The wood is drilled through, the end of the rod threded, and a short bolt used to hold the rod against the inside of the hinge. Note: If the tool is heavier on one side than the other, the lifting mechanism can be located off center to compensate. Also note that the rod should be long enough to provide enough leverage to easily raise and lower the tool. The front-to-back width of the toggle bars comes into play here. If they’re too wide, you lose leverage and have to work harder to raise the tool. They don’t have to be very wide, as the load is straignt up-and-down when they’re together ... but they shoudn’t be too skinny, either. You don’t want the toggle to kink unexpectedly when you hit a rough spot in the floor!


(3) The second photo shows how the tool is lowered onto the feet. The casters are still resting on the ground, but bear no weight. Note the steel plate reinforcement at the outer end of the rod, and the (cut off and epoxied-in-place) bolt at the upper hinge joint.


(4) The last photo shows how the lower pivot joint is made. It has to flex in two directions. I epoxied an eyebolt into the bar, then epoxied threaded rod into a hole drilled into the edge of the caster plate and the “abbreviated” doubler. A stack of washers gives a loosy-goosy joint between the eyebolt and threaded rod.

Obviously, this mechanism could be built out of steel or other materials, and adapted to any number of tools or tables. However, weight will eventually become a factor!

Best wishes!

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thanks, guys; lots of ideas to chew over now! I think the idea top would be the channels mentioned (T-slots) so work could be held down in various ways with t-bolt holders. At least that's my initial thought. Would give a lot of flexibility to my work. I'll revisit this thrread a few more times to mull over what you've given me thus far and anything else that you might add. Thanks!!!
 
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