How to Make Project Easier and Faster

Phil3

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My daughter uses a device called a tahkli. You can see one in use here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_wCej5n7AY

Designed to convert wool or other raw material into yarn.

Seeing this, I decided to see if I could make something different that worked better. My result is seen in the attached pics. Problems with existing tahklis are the shaft is too thick making it hard to get maximum rpm with a twis of the fingers. Wood shafts, the usual material, are too weak when thin. I went with thin wall stainless steel tubing 0.120" OD. My daughter says the weight can'be too high, but needed maximum inertia. Hence, the light recessed aluminum hub and heavy brass outside. I press fit the flywheel onto the shaft with Loctite for good measure. I put a point on a 1" piece of acrylic rod, center drilled the other end and pressed it on the shaft. The tahkli spins on this point. I was using epoxy for a small ball (from ball bearing) on the very top, but too fragile so need another option.

It took me forever to make a few of these. By far, the hardest part was fitting the brass and aluminum together as the fit has to be exact. And then carving out the aluminum dish and trying to adhere to dimensions. I just gave up on that and cut it until it looked nice, figuring each one will be a little different. I hate wasting all the brass from the long boring process to get the bore to 1". I have brass bar stock and thought about cutting that into squares, drilling modest sized holes in all, putting a threaded rod through them all with a nut on each end and chuck the whole mess into a lathe to make the squares all round. Now I have a bunch of rounds discs, but what is the best way to put in a 1" bore and face each side? I have a way to generally face pretty well, but welcome any ideas.

My daughter brought a few I made to some event today and let me know one already sold (person wanted it and asked, even though not actively selling). It is obvious I need to make more, but sure would like to do this better with less effort and time. Ideas?

Phil

Spindle 2A.jpg Spindle 3A.jpg
 
Your daughters work is impressive, I've never seen anyone spin thread that fine.

Nice work on the thingamajig too ;)

As far as faster, looks like you have 3 pieces, a brass flywheel, an inner hub (SS or alum?), and a stainless steel shaft. The shaft seems like there is not much machining to it, so I'm guessing you are gonna focus on the flywheel and hub.

There are a couple things I have done to get things done faster when making batches of parts, but some of it depends on what type of lathe you have. For example, if you had a Hardinge HC, you could probably stamp those out in a couple minutes. A turret lathe could likely do similar. If you have a regular engine lathe I would suggest making batches of the same part instead of all the parts for one unit at a time.

When I was converting my mill to CNC, I had to make a bunch of standoffs (12 in total, sets of 4 in 3 different lengths). Here is what I did.

1) Cut blanks about 1/8" oversize (material was 0.5" 12L14 steel)
2) Load each unit in the lathe in a collet, face one end to clean up
3) Load one unit in the lathe with the faced end against the collet stop
4) Face down until I hit my desired length
5) Set the carriage stop
6) Center Drill
7) Drill through
8) Load next part
9) Face off till I hit carriage stop
10) Center Drill
11) Drill through
12) Keep going till you run out of parts

Being able to perform the same step on multiple parts without having to re-configure the machine is the key. Stops are great. I only have a single carriage stop, but I have seen multi position stops, some shop built, some purchased.
 
Although I really like how the design looks with the aluminum/brass weight I think that you could save a lot of hassle by just keeping the entire thing brass. If you thin out the center section enough and maybe even have holes spaced radially around the axis your weight difference would be negligible.

As for the point that it spins on, I'm a little fuzzy on what's needed there so I can't offer any suggestions (good or bad ;)).

Hope that helps,

-Ron
 
Cast it in lead (Pb), with suitable jig to hold shaft vertical?
M

Lead is kinda frowned upon for lead poisoning reasons. But I do like the casting idea. I'd make
a jig mold/for casting use the hole brass round for the exterior. The shaft would have to be peaned where it goes in the mold. Cast the interior with pot metal or aluminum. Then, just clean it up on the lathe or belt sander.
 
Lead is kinda frowned upon for lead poisoning reasons. But I do like the casting idea. I'd make
a jig mold/for casting use the hole brass round for the exterior. The shaft would have to be peaned where it goes in the mold. Cast the interior with pot metal or aluminum. Then, just clean it up on the lathe or belt sander.

True. Elemental lead may hold little danger for the user but it would run foul of RoHS regulations for selling on the open market.
May as well go the whole hog and cast the entire wheel in brass/bronze with the shaft in situ!

Martin.
 
Peening might distort the shaft. You could cross drill it and insert a small pin that would tie in solidly with the casting.

I've made wooden drop spindles using pre-turned wooden toy wheels.

Dale
 
Peening might distort the shaft. You could cross drill it and insert a small pin that would tie in solidly with the casting.

I've made wooden drop spindles using pre-turned wooden toy wheels.

Dale

I missed the part where the shaft is made of tubing. I like the wooden wheel idea. Press fit a brass "tire" on the wooden wheel adhered with acrylate or epoxy glue. If you want cheap and plentiful, go with a piece of black pipe for the tire. You could also fit the shaft the same way. Simple .
 
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