Help Identifying Mill

[timpet98]

HI, I was looking at this mill online but the owner knows nothing about it. There is a plate that says Jackson Machine & Tool Co. on it, but it is not attached to the mill so I'm not sure it it actually goes with it. I can't find anything about them making a small horizontal, but if anyone has any information let me know!

 

[HarryJM]

Hope this helps some.
Practical Machinist has several post about Jackson Machine & Tool, although no machines look like yours. http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=2105&tab=3 also references Jack Machine & Tool, although no machines look like yours.

 

[francist]

Again, more on the vertical miller from Jackson but not a horizontal.

Jackson Vertical Milling Machine

Jackson Vertical Milling Machine<br>United States of America. A small but handy verticaller probaly from the late 1930s or 1940s

www.lathes.co.uk

-frank

 

[timpet98]

The Vintage Machinery page was the first place that I looked, and just took a look at the Lathes.uk page, and neither seemed like a good match. I just got some more information from the seller, its variable belt drive with motor mounted underneath in the stand, 3-phase. The spindle is powered internally and there are step pulleys on the back for the power feed. Honestly it seems like some sort of rebadged Sheldon #0, which itself a rebadged Vernon horizontal mill. Am I on to something or am I crazy? Here's a few more pics and some of the Sheldon for comparison.

 

[brino]

Not exactly the same castings as the Sheldon.
That "tombstone" look is very unique....

It sure looks like a strong, well made mill!

-brino

 

[timpet98]

Glad to say it is!!! Just picked it up today, the previous owner thought it was 3-phase and never got around to hooking it up, then upon closer examination it is single phase 120V so I'll be hooking it up as soon as I get a chance. It also has a 3MT spindle taper. It has casting part numbers all over that are 201-XX. The variable cone pulleys are stamped with "U.S. PAT NOS 2186477 & 2151189" so I'm about to Google them and find out what it has to say. I also found this ONE other pic of the same model with a universal head, any one know anything about that either? The forum that the pic was posted on drove me mad, because someone just posted it as an "example of a small mill" then the next person started talking about something in the background, so it was not much help.

 

[brino]

Intesting.....

this one is a "Variable speed transmission mechanism":
https://patents.google.com/patent/US2151189A/en?oq=2151189

and this one an "Oiling system":
https://patents.google.com/patent/US2186477A/en?oq=2186477

The first looks to be from March 1939 one says:
Inventor: Coddington Lloyd
Current Assignee: CONTINENTAL MACHINE SPECIALTIE

The second one was "Filed March 25,' 1938" and says:
Inventor: Coddington Lloyd

Keep posting anything you find, perhaps we can still ID it.

-brino


off topic and a little troubling is one that pops up from the Chinese patent system (if indeed the first two letters mean country):

 

[brino]

Hey, even more interesting.....

a search on "CONTINENTAL MACHINE SPECIALTIE" found this page:
http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=256

Which is titled: "Do-All (Continental Machine Specialties Co.)"

Also, both that second patent and "DoAll" list address as "Minneapolis, MN, U.S.A."

-brino

 

[HarryJM]

Might give the metal working side of http://www.owwm.org/viewforum.php?f=77&sid=f2b3f545ab8b61ff5e76e41d6ea8783a a try to see if anyone there can help. I searched the antique machinery side of Practical Machinist and found a thread https://www.practicalmachinist.com/...ool-no-2-mill-pic-s-148822/?highlight=jackson that talked about Jackson Machine & Tool.

 

[Choiliefan]

The Do-All connection is also interesting given Mr Coddington's patent for an improved band file:

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/65/fe/3e/977bce56f4b485/US2372553.pdf